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Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

Who will still be standing


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re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Your idea of change is never going to work: Women's reproductive rights (abortion); changing the definition of marriage (gay agenda); legalizing drugs; legalizing illegal immigrants. It can go on and on and on and on....

Next thing yanno donkeys will talk and people will be marrying them
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

You can't change a True Believer.

But you can laugh at them.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

But you can laugh at them.




The problem is that while some of us are laughing, some of them are working hard to put bad laws in force.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Next thing yanno donkeys will talk and people will be marrying them

Well, bestiality is legal in more states than gay marriage is.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

The problem is that while some of us are laughing, some of them are working hard to put bad laws in force.

I didn't say we should only laugh, but it is part of the program. The more we can expose their absurd beliefs for the laughable nonsense that they are, the less traction they're going to get when the propose action based on their asinine faith.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I didn't say we should only laugh, but it is part of the program. The more we can expose their absurd beliefs for the laughable nonsense that they are, the less traction they're going to get when the propose action based on their asinine faith.




Hey, I laugh at them all the time, but I'm sure that you agree we must do more than just laugh, we must work keep these people and those that they support out of positions of power.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I've noticed a lot of churches have been caving in to the demands of gay activists, so my question here is, which of the remaining 4 will still be standing after the dust settles?

The churches are meant to Shepard people to the Lord. As long as they are violating their own theology of reaching out to those poor in spirit they are divided against themselves. The churches will evolve or die. I think the only one out of the four you listed will be the Catholic church. The baptist church is to weak and young. The theology is back ward and broken and frankly I find that its on its way out anyway.

The Mormon church is a cult. They will collapse as all cults do.

The methodist church may see the flaw in their bias and correct it.

The Catholic church has weathered the worst storms and have the ability to adapt and over come. I think they are reluctant but will eventually accept reality and survive.

You forgot the evangelical church, assembly of God, pentecostal and seventh day adventists. But they will adapt or die just the same as all others.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Wrong.

There are lots of homosexuals in lots of Christian Churches.

You can deny their existence all that you want, but they are there.

Going to a Christian church does not make you a Christian.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

LOL. There are mainstream churches flying gay pride flags here in Houston. Bering United Methodist, True Worship Baptist, Memorial Church of Christ, and a bunch of others.

Since you don't know a freeking thing about Christianity, let me lend you a clue: Christianity is for sinners, and we are all sinners.

Yes, but does that make everyone a Christian? No. Try again.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

If God accepted everyone, like you seem to want, then what would be the point of life here on earth?

This is fascinating. For whatever twisted reason, you actually do believe that it is hatred that gives meaning to life?

Of course, you are not alone (I've mentioned the Commies and the Nazis before), but what a remarkable sideways leap of faith - to imagine yourself an instrument of judgment on behalf of a hypothetical being, based on reasoning you or I cannot possibly comprehend...

There's a very simple and very sad alternative explanation, of course: The elementary lust for power. Force your neighbor to conform - or else.

Personally, I think it is disgusting, but clearly disgust wouldn't be a good argument, considering the topic. Moral considerations would not play either, since you have already jettisoned them to make space for your confessional taboos. But there is still one argument left - a cold, pragmatic, "conservative" argument: Your own personal safety - or perhaps safety of people like you, some generations later.

The State empowered to judge what kind of interaction between consenting adults is OK and what is not - such State will not stop when it runs out of homosexuals (Jews, Poles, Gypsies, kulaks, "bourgeoisie", people wearing glasses...). The wheels will keep spinning.

The 20th century was a lot fun - check it out. And Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot did not have computer databases and GPS tracking at their fingertips....

Have we learned absolutely nothing?
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Going to a Christian church does not make you a Christian.

Yes, but everyone had their own beliefs. You can't tell someone what they believe. My boyfriend is Catholic and he is very devoted to his faith. He actively goes to church, prays, does confession, spreads the word. He has even been able to convince me back into Christianity. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they cant be religious.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Yes, but everyone had their own beliefs. You can't tell someone what they believe. My boyfriend is Catholic and he is very devoted to his faith. He actively goes to church, prays, does confession, spreads the word. He has even been able to convince me back into Christianity. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they cant be religious.

Religious =/= Christian
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Religious =/= Christian


I thought we were in America and all religions were allowed. Which I might add, religious CAN mean Christian.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

I thought we were in America and all religions were allowed. Which I might add, religious CAN mean Christian.

No religious cannot mean Christian actually. That being said, who said anything about not allowing other religions?
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

No religious cannot mean Christian actually. That being said, who said anything about not allowing other religions?

It seems that many who are trying to "stand against" homosexuality, are trying to act like the religions who accept it aren't meant for American way of life. So they stand behind the bible and select scriptures that favor their way of thinking without speaking about the accepting and loving everyone parts.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

It seems that many who are trying to "stand against" homosexuality, are trying to act like the religions who accept it aren't meant for American way of life. So they stand behind the bible and select scriptures that favor their way of thinking without speaking about the accepting and loving everyone parts.

That's not true actually. A pretty bad misrepresentation. Also, wasn't what was being discussed here....

:spin: :alert
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Yes, but everyone had their own beliefs. You can't tell someone what they believe. My boyfriend is Catholic and he is very devoted to his faith. He actively goes to church, prays, does confession, spreads the word. He has even been able to convince me back into Christianity. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they cant be religious.

He is Christian, for one reason. He accepts Jesus as his Lord and savior. Don't part mind to anti biblical theology. No matter what anybody says your boyfriend knows what is in his heart. Charlatans think they know better which is why they are charlatans.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

That's not true actually. A pretty bad misrepresentation. Also, wasn't what was being discussed here....

:spin: :alert

Sorry. You are correct there actually. I misunderstood what you meant. But hey, we are all human aren't we?

Anyway, what did you mean by going to a church doesn't make you Christian? Of course you are right, but where were you going with that?
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Sorry. You are correct there actually. I misunderstood what you meant. But hey, we are all human aren't we?

Anyway, what did you mean by going to a church doesn't make you Christian? Of course you are right, but where were you going with that?

The argument being proposed by a lot of people around here is that because a certain church accepts homosexuality and embraces it, or because a homosexual goes to church that means they are Christian and that the Bible doesn't actually speak against it. All of which are false.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

It seems that many who are trying to "stand against" homosexuality, are trying to act like the religions who accept it aren't meant for American way of life. So they stand behind the bible and select scriptures that favor their way of thinking without speaking about the accepting and loving everyone parts.

Its deeply ironic because these "beliefs" that people claim are Christian don't line up with every church. Then done people say that churches that disagree in theology with theirs are not Christian churches.

this is the worst part of fundamentalism someone who is a fundamentalist is in fact saying that their beliefs are the only correct ones thus meaning that they think they are now God themselves. Or they have some special understanding not available to others yet they refuse to share. Thus is a profit of doom. You can know them by their words. I believe you are wise enough to know exactly what I mean.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

The argument being proposed by a lot of people around here is that because a certain church accepts homosexuality and embraces it, or because a homosexual goes to church that means they are Christian and that the Bible doesn't actually speak against it. All of which are false.

Who said the bible doesn't speak against it? Of course it does, no one will let us not know about Leviticus. Of course the only flaw is that you ignore just about everything else in Leviticus. But to all their beliefs as I said.

In response to a homosexual going to church doesn't mean they are Christian. It doesn't mean they aren't Christian either.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Sorry. You are correct there actually. I misunderstood what you meant. But hey, we are all human aren't we?

Anyway, what did you mean by going to a church doesn't make you Christian? Of course you are right, but where were you going with that?

The Bible never did say anything against homosexuality. The claim that it did is false.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Who said the bible doesn't speak against it? Of course it does, no one will let us not know about Leviticus. Of course the only flaw is that you ignore just about everything else in Leviticus. But to all their beliefs as I said.

In response to a homosexual going to church doesn't mean they are Christian. It doesn't mean they aren't Christian either.

You have to take the Bible as a whole, Corinthians, Galatians, and Romans make very clear that homosexuals will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven, therefore are not able to be Christians unless they repent and turn from their sin and follow Christ.

It is inaccurate to say we ignore the rest of Leviticus actually.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

The Bible never did say anything against homosexuality. The claim that it did is false.

I thought Leviticus said some things about it is an abomination for a man to sleep with another mad like a woman. Or something like that.
 
re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

Who said the bible doesn't speak against it? Of course it does, no one will let us not know about Leviticus. Of course the only flaw is that you ignore just about everything else in Leviticus. But to all their beliefs as I said.

In response to a homosexual going to church doesn't mean they are Christian. It doesn't mean they aren't Christian either.

Leviticus didn't say anything against homosexuality in general, just certain practices, such as keeping boy slaves for sex.
 
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