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  • Roman Catholic Church

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  • Southern Baptist Convention

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  • United Methodist Church

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  • Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

    8 8.42%
  • None will be standing

    24 25.26%
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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

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    The morality if God is absolute. Morality is not relative. What's wrong is wrong.
    No, morality is relative. Your morality is your own and does not apply to anyone else. Wrong is subjective.
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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

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    No, morality is relative. Your morality is your own and does not apply to anyone else. Wrong is subjective.
    God's morality applies to everyone. When they die they are judged by Him, not their peers and not by themselves.

    If I have power my morality applies to others. We set morals into law and they become right and wrong for society because society has the power to enforce it. We largely deem it immoral to murder, it's wrong to take another human life outside of self defense. Someone may have their own personal view of a "survival of the fittest" mentality and justify it, but they are still wrong when judged by the higher power (in this case being the law). In much the same way people will be judge by God's higher law over them.

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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    God's morality applies to everyone. When they die they are judged by Him, not their peers and not by themselves.
    We are not talking about God's morality. We are talking about your perception of God's morality.
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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harekin View Post
    Haircuts, shellfish, mixed material clothing, eating fat (bacon), touching dirty animals, tearing your clothes, drinking alcohol in holy places, eating pig, going to church withing 33 days after birthing a boy, going to church within 66 days of birthing a girl, having sex with a woman on her period, having sex with the neighbors wife, Having sex with a man “as one does with a woman” (vaginal sex), bestiality, stealing, lying, trimming your beard, getting tattoos, etc.

    Why don't you go picket that stuff and see how far you get.
    Jesus fulfilled the ceremonial laws, they no longer apply for Christians.

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    God's morality applies to everyone. When they die they are judged by Him, not their peers and not by themselves.
    And what actually is God's morality is not up to you to interpret.

    If I have power my morality applies to others. We set morals into law and they become right and wrong for society because society has the power to enforce it. We largely deem it immoral to murder, it's wrong to take another human life outside of self defense. Someone may have their own personal view of a "survival of the fittest" mentality and justify it, but they are still wrong when judged by the higher power (in this case being the law). In much the same way people will be judge by God's higher law over them.
    You just showed how morality is relative based on societal norms and society's interpretation of God's words.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And what actually is God's morality is not up to you to interpret.
    God's morality is clearly written in the Bible, we can interpret it but if we are wrong we are wrong. Someone can incorrectly say that the Bible approves of homosexuality or any other sin that they want to feel comfortable committing or supporting, but it doesn't make it true. That's why it's crucial to read the Bible in context with prayer guided by the Holy Spirit.
    You just showed how morality is relative based on societal norms and society's interpretation of God's words.
    No, I gave an example. Just as how human laws are a higher power when humans do immoral things, God's laws are a higher power that all humans will be judged under when they die. Someone can hold their relative beliefs about something and be wrong because absolute exists and truth is knowable. Humans can change human laws, God can change His laws, but the laws on the books are absolute. if someone murders and they are judged it is absolutely a crime, in much the same way if someone sins they will be judged for it and it will absolutely be sin.
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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I've noticed a lot of churches have been caving in to the demands of gay activists, so my question here is, which of the remaining 4 will still be standing after the dust settles?
    The churches will make whatever decision they wish to make. And that's fine, freedom of religion and all.
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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    God's morality is clearly written in the Bible,
    Clearly? So no fabric blends? Stoning of women should be standard? All the things that contradict each other should be simultaneously carried out? Clearly? I don't know if you understand the meaning of that word.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No, morality is relative. Your morality is your own and does not apply to anyone else. Wrong is subjective.

    This is an interesting philosophical dilemma. If there is a God, then there is a truth. If that God has rules, then morality is absolute. The fact that man does not know God nor know God's rules does not change the fact that morality is absolute. If one has a belief, then they also believe that morality is absolute.

    Of course, if there is no God, the concept of morality is considerably different. For one, morality becomes more about ethics than morals as virtue is more rooted in philosophy than truth. In that case, "morality" is relative.

    When you suggest that morality is relative, that statement is more about ethics: respecting the rights of others to have different belief systems. Despite the fact that people have different belief systems, not all of them are correct; in fact, most of them (the specific systems) will be wrong.

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