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Thread: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's really a dumb question. It harms the torturer as well as the person tortured. Such harm and brutality can be nothing but immoral.
    1. How does it harm to torturer?
    2. All forms of torture? What about psychological torture? That is not brutality.
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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    1. How does it harm to torturer?
    2. All forms of torture? What about psychological torture? That is not brutality.
    Your can brutalize another person and Nott be effected. Your either steel yourself, becoming less compassionate or your suffer knowing what you did. Very few, if any, can really keep proper balance, if there is such thing.

    And yes, all forms or torture are brutality , if they weren't, they wouldn't be torture, they'd be something else.

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Your can brutalize another person and Nott be effected. Your either steel yourself, becoming less compassionate or your suffer knowing what you did. Very few, if any, can really keep proper balance, if there is such thing.

    And yes, all forms or torture are brutality , if they weren't, they wouldn't be torture, they'd be something else.
    Psychological torture is brutality? Then I cannot agree that all forms of brutality are immoral.
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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Psychological torture is brutality? Then I cannot agree that all forms of brutality are immoral.
    Of course. According to the CIA, that kind of torture has longer lasting negative effects than physical torture. It ruins lives. That's brutality.

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Of course. According to the CIA, that kind of torture has longer lasting negative effects than physical torture. It ruins lives. That's brutality.
    Terrorists, who we advocate that kind of torture to be used on, have already ruined their lives, they have negative effects in themselves, and that is different than tortoring someone who is just random off the street.
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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Terrorists, who we advocate that kind of torture to be used on, have already ruined their lives, they have negative effects in themselves, and that is different than tortoring someone who is just random off the street.
    Do really think morality is in emulating them? Really? They will suffer for their sins. We don't need to join them. Principles don't change because others don't share them. You either have a principle or you don't.

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Do really think morality is in emulating them? Really? They will suffer for their sins. We don't need to join them. Principles don't change because others don't share them. You either have a principle or you don't.
    I think it is funny that a professed liberal is trying to tell Conservatives what their position is and/or should be......how does that make sense?
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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I think it is funny that a professed liberal is trying to tell Conservatives what their position is and/or should be......how does that make sense?
    Not what I'm doing. I'm telling you what is and isn't moral. And explaining why. So don't get too silly here.

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not what I'm doing. I'm telling you what is and isn't moral. And explaining why. So don't get too silly here.
    All due respect Boo, but that is so unlike you.

    Don't we already have enough people around here telling us what is and is not moral?

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not what I'm doing. I'm telling you what is and isn't moral. And explaining why. So don't get too silly here.
    What defines moral? I say that abortion is immoral, do you agree?
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