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Thread: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Probably not many...I mean organized religion is about making money....err I mean saving souls and helping people reach everlasting life in the Kingdom of God.

    The bible is chock full of stuff that is ignored on a daily basis. If it effects entrants into an organized religion I'm pretty sure it will go the way of burning furniture a woman on her period sits on.
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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Take a look at the sign this politically charged Christian is pumping into the air. Read the words then tell me that's nothing less than a demand. Actually it's more like a threat, which is worse. Thank you for helping me make that clarification, Dezaad.
    Oh, please. In your sad little world that amonts to a threat. What it is in reality is a reminder that when gay people are oppressed and as a result in denial, gays tend to marry women in order to prove their straightness. It is not a threat, it is a statement of reality. A tragic reality that ends in sadness for both people. Quite persuasive, yes.
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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Who cares? Homosexuality always has, and always will be, a sin.
    "...to me."

    That's how you meant to end that comment, I'm sure.

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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Oh, please. In your sad little world that amonts to a threat. What it is in reality is a reminder that when gay people are oppressed and as a result in denial, gays tend to marry women in order to prove their straightness. It is not a threat, it is a statement of reality. A tragic reality that ends in sadness for both people. Quite persuasive, yes.
    I'm sure convicted felons feel oppressed too. It's all in the way you look at things.

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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Who cares? Homosexuality always has, and always will be, a sin.
    "Sins" do not exist in nature, like stones or mushrooms. They are concepts. If your religious code declares homosexuality a sin - it's fine with me. Don't do it, even if you want to do it badly. I think it is silly, a superstition, but hey, I can respect self-restraint, even so ridiculously misapplied.

    Now, above and beyond all tribal and confessional taboos, there is something bigger, something universal, some basic rules of morality - wouldn't you agree? "Do not onto others that you wish not to be done onto yourself". Sounds vaguely familiar?

    Nobody wishes to be coerced, by definition. See where I am going with this?

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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    "...to me."

    That's how you meant to end that comment, I'm sure.
    Yes, I'm sure you are sure.

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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Nearly 60 years before the Europeans were to find the New World, we already had the papal condemnation of slavery as soon as this crime was discovered in one of the first of the Portuguese geographical discoveries

    Fr. Joel S. Panzer

    A quote from the papal bull in question (written in 1435): These people are to be totally and perpetually free and are to be let go without the exaction or reception of any money.
    You should always read the full text.

    We will that like sentence of excommunication be incurred by one and all who attempt to capture, sell, or subject to slavery, baptized residents if the Canary Islands, or those who are freely seeking Baptism, from which excommunication cannot be absolved except as was stated above.
    The protections were to be applied to Christians only.

    The concept that Non-Christians could be enslaved was confirmed by further bulls like Dum Diversas 20 years later.
    We grant you [Kings of Spain and Portugal] by these present documents, with our Apostolic Authority, full and free permission to invade, search out, capture, and subjugate the Saracens and pagans and any other unbelievers and enemies of Christ wherever they may be, as well as their kingdoms, duchies, counties, principalities, and other property [...] and to reduce their persons into perpetual slavery.

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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    "Sins" do not exist in nature, like stones or mushrooms. They are concepts.
    Doctrines of atheism have no place in spiritual matters, Cyrylek.... just thought you should know.

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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Yes, I'm sure you are sure.
    I'm sure I am.

    All I know is there are hundred of faiths in the world, and nearly everyone has at least some nuanced, individual interpretation of the tenets of each of those faiths, and in all those faiths and interpretations God is somehow able to mirror the exact same opinions of his adherents.

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    re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Who cares? Homosexuality always has, and always will be, a sin.
    It shows that your immutable rules of morality based on the bible do in fact change.
    A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.
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