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Thread: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743:1845; 2006]

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Is tolerance a virtue in the bible?

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    Of course it is.

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Taking the Bible out of context, not surprised.
    Yes, I do believe that is what you're doing. And no, it isn't surprising.

    Jesus brought compassion to the law. While he didn't change the law, he lived in a time when homosexual acts were quite common, yet he never said a word. Not one thing. When he did lose his temper, it was over greed, not sex of any kind, let alone homosexual sex. Many merely use religion to allow their hate to be spoken in the open and to justify that prejudice.

    I'm not convinced the Bible actually addresses homosexuality. For every verse you can provide, I can show you a rebuttal. As this is the case, I prefer to let God worry about this. I'd much rather be quilty of letting two adults show love to one another than to harm their fellow man or woman in any way. I believe that is more a proper context of Jesus' message than your reading.

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    When it comes to taking the bible out of context nobody is more experienced than a Christian. It's impossible to count the number of times someone has used Leviticus to condemn a certain thing and then completely ignore the rest of it on account of the fact that Jesus wiped the slate clean.

    Homophobic Christians have no credibility on this issue.
    Jesus is not an enabler.

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    What's the homophobe agenda?
    "Homophobe" is a term manipulatively misused by liberal activists in the hope of demonstrating to homosexuals that they belong in the Democrat party .. so that they can vote for liberal Dem economic policies.
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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, I do believe that is what you're doing. And no, it isn't surprising.

    Jesus brought compassion to the law. While he didn't change the law, he lived in a time when homosexual acts were quite common, yet he never said a word. Not one thing. When he did lose his temper, it was over greed, not sex of any kind, let alone homosexual sex. Many merely use religion to allow their hate to be spoken in the open and to justify that prejudice.

    I'm not convinced the Bible actually addresses homosexuality. For every verse you can provide, I can show you a rebuttal. As this is the case, I prefer to let God worry about this. I'd much rather be quilty of letting two adults show love to one another than to harm their fellow man or woman in any way. I believe that is more a proper context of Jesus' message than your reading.
    Please, show your Biblical Rebuttals. I'm intrigued.
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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Of course it is.
    To a certain point.
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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You do realize that Jesus did not wipe the entire slate clean correct? Murder is still wrong, adultery is still wrong, homosexuality is still wrong (and found in the NT).
    Okay, then you have to acknowledge that Leviticus bans a large number of other practices that most people today recognize are irrelevant.

    It's a no-win position: if you're going to cite Leviticus then you have to acknowledge all of it or none of it, or nobody you talk to you is going to think you have any credibility.

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Okay, then you have to acknowledge that Leviticus bans a large number of other practices that most people today recognize are irrelevant.

    It's a no-win position: if you're going to cite Leviticus then you have to acknowledge all of it or none of it, or nobody you talk to you is going to think you have any credibility.
    Except that isn't true. That's like saying we should never cite Exodus to say murder is wrong because there are parts of Exodus that are no longer relevant. That's not the litmus test.
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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Except that isn't true. That's like saying we should never cite Exodus to say murder is wrong because there are parts of Exodus that are no longer relevant. That's not the litmus test.
    Then you need to explain clearly for non-Christians why some parts of Leviticus are relevant and others aren't.

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    Re: Which religion will stand its ground against the gay agenda? [W:743]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Then you need to explain clearly for non-Christians why some parts of Leviticus are relevant and others aren't.
    I have, they don't listen. The cleansing laws, such as sacrifice, what animals you can eat, and such, were repealed as they were fulfilled by Christ and confirmed by Peter after his encounter. The moral laws, such as murder is wrong, homosexuality is wrong, adultery, lying, lust, etc are wrong, were upheld as confirmed by Paul.
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