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Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder relavent

Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder relavent

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Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

Removable Mind said:
So you are just pro-birth...not pro-life..
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I never think the issue of the death penalty is relevant to the abortion issue. You know I am very extra pro-choice. However, I am pro-death penalty.
 
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windowdressing said:
it's not unusual for anti-abortion folks to care about the life of the pre-born and not the born ...
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Sad, but true. I guess there are more people than I'd like to believe...that somehow find it easier to justify executing a 12 year old kid...than aborting a non-sentient 12 week old fetus. I'll never, ever understand the logic.

Thanks, WD....
 
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CRUE CAB said:
Proof of that?
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cons, the most likely to be opposed to a woman's right to choose, are also the ones more likely to oppose taking care of people in need, the poor, cutting head start, cutting environmental protections, etc.
 
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windowdressing said:
cons, the most likely to be opposed to a woman's right to choose, are also the ones more likely to oppose taking care of people in need, the poor, cutting head start, cutting environmental protections, etc.
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Wow, try again. Wrong on all points.
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

CRUE CAB said:
Wow, try again. Wrong on all points.
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Wow Crue, or if you prefer, Mr. Cab, I see you're from Florida and recently not a lot has made sense there, so I'll give you a pass ... but, yes, right on all points ...
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

ReformCollege said:
I think I gave a bit of the wrong impression by saying shoot first and asking questions later. That's a bit extreme, and I suppose it depends, but I would definitely have a gun out and would attempt to either scare him off if he was trying to get in, or hold him there until the cops arrived if he has already broken in and entered.
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Scaring someone off can be legal tricky business. In Florida, you could in all likelihood shoot an intruder in your home many times legally and lethally. BUT, if you called the police saying "someone broke into my house, but he ran off after I fired a warning shot" - you had confessed to a felony with a mandatory 20 YEARS PRISON. Legally, you could have killed the intruder. But absolutely may never, ever fire "a warning shot."
 
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windowdressing said:
Wow Crue, or if you prefer, Mr. Cab, I see you're from Florida and recently not a lot has made sense there, so I'll give you a pass ... but, yes, right on all points ...
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Dead criminals are scumbags that gave up thier rights as soon as they over step and commit crime.
Un born children are innocent.
Pretty clear concept.
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

joko104 said:
Scaring someone off can be legal tricky business. In Florida, you could in all likelihood shoot an intruder in your home many times legally and lethally. BUT, if you called the police saying "someone broke into my house, but he ran off after I fired a warning shot" - you had confessed to a felony with a mandatory 20 YEARS PRISON. Legally, you could have killed the intruder. But absolutely may never, ever fire "a warning shot."
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Thats right, because a warning shot is a neglegent act.
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

CRUE CAB said:
Dead criminals are scumbags that gave up thier rights as soon as they over step and commit crime.
Un born children are innocent.
Pretty clear concept.
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O.K. CC, O.K. ... :roll:
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

joko104 said:
Scaring someone off can be legal tricky business. In Florida, you could in all likelihood shoot an intruder in your home many times legally and lethally. BUT, if you called the police saying "someone broke into my house, but he ran off after I fired a warning shot" - you had confessed to a felony with a mandatory 20 YEARS PRISON. Legally, you could have killed the intruder. But absolutely may never, ever fire "a warning shot."
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Hahah. That's quite bad.
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

ChrisL said:
I agree because there is a difference between a minor and an adult, hence the terms "minor" and "adult." Minors are capable of rehabilitation because their minds are still young and pliable and shouldn't be charged as adults for that reason IMO. Also, minors are expected to be more easily manipulated than adults, another crucial difference that should be taken into consideration when sentencing a minor.

I still believe they should be punished of course, but just differently than an adult who is expected to have higher critical thinking skills.
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And usually more experience in the Real World. ;)
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

windowdressing said:
it's not unusual for anti-abortion folks to care about the life of the pre-born and not the born ...
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The pre-born have done nothing wrong.

The "born" who HAVE done something wrong, should be punished.
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

Removable Mind said:
Sad, but true. I guess there are more people than I'd like to believe...that somehow find it easier to justify executing a 12 year old kid...than aborting a non-sentient 12 week old fetus. I'll never, ever understand the logic.

Thanks, WD....
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Read above... its quite simple really.
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

windowdressing said:
Wow Crue, or if you prefer, Mr. Cab, I see you're from Florida and recently not a lot has made sense there, so I'll give you a pass ... but, yes, right on all points ...
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Your right... not alot in Florida has made sense, ever since they allowed mob rule to bring a man to trial despite a police investigation and denied prosecution.

And yes... you will claim the police didn't investigate, its only because you don't like the outcome of the investigation.
 
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windowdressing said:
O.K. CC, O.K. ... :roll:
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All you have to respond to that is an eyeroll?

Please... tell us more of how you think criminals are more entitled to life than innocent babies......
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

Caine said:
Read above... its quite simple really.
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READ BELOW....it's more than simple...and reality:

Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
Sad, but true. I guess there are more people than I'd like to believe...that somehow find it easier to justify executing a 12 year old kid...than aborting a non-sentient 12 week old fetus. I'll never, ever understand the logic.
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The unborn aren't capable of being innocent or guilty. You have to be engaged in interactions among the born to qualify for being guilty or innocent.
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

davidtaylorjr said:
Straw Man argument, you apparently don't know what Pro-Life means.
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I know exactly what Pro-life means...and since you believe in the right of authorities to execute a 12 year old kid....pro-life is what you're not. You strongly quality for Pro-Birth.
 
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Removable Mind said:
READ BELOW....it's more than simple...and reality:



The unborn aren't capable of being innocent or guilty. You have to be engaged in interactions among the born to qualify for being guilty or innocent.
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Well there goes the "presumption of innocence" theory.......

:roll:
 
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Caine said:
Well there goes the "presumption of innocence" theory.......

:roll:
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For the UNBORN...yes! But not for the BORN...
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

Removable Mind said:
I know exactly what Pro-life means...and since you believe in the right of authorities to execute a 12 year old kid....pro-life is what you're not. You strongly quality for Pro-Birth.
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WordNet Search - 3.1 :shrug:
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

Caine said:
The pre-born have done nothing wrong.

The "born" who HAVE done something wrong, should be punished.
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you missed the point completely ...
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

Caine said:
Your right... not alot in Florida has made sense, ever since they allowed mob rule to bring a man to trial despite a police investigation and denied prosecution.

And yes... you will claim the police didn't investigate, its only because you don't like the outcome of the investigation.
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How often do police officers arrive at a scene where someone has shot to death another person and take the killer's word for how the other person ended up dead instead of letting a jury decide?
 
Re: Is the age of a dead burglar,assailant,armed robber, attempted rapist/murder rela

Caine said:
All you have to respond to that is an eyeroll?

Please... tell us more of how you think criminals are more entitled to life than innocent babies......
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that's three responses in a row from you ... I'm going to have to get a restraining order to get you to stop following me ... after several exchanges with someone, a rolling of the eyes is all that is left ... you cons don't seem to understand how difficult it is to try to have an intelligent conversation with you guys ... it's hard work (to quote Bush) ... it's hard ...
 
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