View Poll Results: Should we take steps to remove the social stigma on polyandry and polygamy?

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  • Yes, the majority of men would benefit

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  • Yes, the majority of women would benefit

    0 0%
  • Yes, the majority of men and women would benefit

    4 16.67%
  • Yes, I don't care who would or would not benefit, as long as it doesn't affect me

    2 8.33%
  • Yes, I want to be able to engage in polyandry or polygamy without being stigmatized

    2 8.33%
  • Yes, this wouldn't have any appreciable effect on society

    3 12.50%
  • No, this would not be good for society

    7 29.17%
  • No, marriage is supposed to be between one man and one woman

    4 16.67%
  • No, marriage is supposed to be between two people only

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    Re: Should we take steps to remove the social stigma on polyandry and polygamy?

    I don't think you are ever going to get to a point in a society where women have access to education and human rights that you will see any sort of movement towards accepting being in a polygamist relationship to a very large degree. I also don't see there really being any sort of real possibility of men accepting multiple wives and hell many men don't even want to marry one, so marrying two, three, four or more wives is just off the table. I really don't think that removing the social stigma would actually be enough to move people into those types relationships in this country. In fact, the way things are going marriage is a dying institution. With marriage numbers going down every year is it really legitimate to be worried about these type of marriages? I don't think so.
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    Re: Should we take steps to remove the social stigma on polyandry and polygamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Do you see any way that polygamy or polyandry could be harmful to society?
    Yes; look at the mormon fundamentalist groups, especially in areas where they are the majority. Polygamy in those areas lead to uneducated girls; woman and children on welfare; young men getting driven out; and people who DON'T follow it and other religious precepts get shunned. (Read Jon Krakauer's book "Under the Banner of Heaven").

    Now you may argue that's because it's illegal and therefore they are hiding their activities; that if it was legal, the people would be more public and exposed to other ideas. Maybe. But it's a pretty unhealthy institution, and having uneducated kids in our society is bad for society.

    As I said earlier - I have no problem with ADULTS who practice polyamory in an uncoerced fashion; I would put the minimum age at 25, personally. But they should be mature enough to handle contracts, wills, powers of attorney on their own; I don't see that there is enough people doing it to "legalize" it. After all, right now you can live in a multiple partner relationship; nothing illegal about it unless you officially marry more than one person or try to claim benefits for more than one person.

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    Re: Should we take steps to remove the social stigma on polyandry and polygamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    All your premises aside, a person's sexual relationships are their own business. Obviously, the young-girl-abusing nature of some forms of polygamy certainly warrants concern, but that is a consent and coercion issue. Adults can basically do whatever they want with each other. I see no reason for any social stigma.
    Marriage isn't solely about sex. Polygamy is nothing more than the subjugation of women by treating them as objects and property. It's no coincidence that the only societies that allow polygamy also happen to be some of the worst offenders of human rights in the world.
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    Re: Should we take steps to remove the social stigma on polyandry and polygamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    So what is your point/argument? Spell it out for us please
    I'd be more than happy to spell it out for ya. What I'm doing is taking a snap shot of what very well could be the not too distant future, and sharing it with this forum. Does that answer your question, or would you like to go a little more in depth?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    I am curious how you think socialism is related to this topic .... ? ?
    The relation is Paschendale, the person I responded to; he's a Socialist.

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    Re: Should we take steps to remove the social stigma on polyandry and polygamy?

    Do explain...polyandry defined: A pattern of mating in which a female animal has more than one male mate

    •••It is much easier for a woman to satisfy and be satisfied by multiple males than the other way around. Do I really have to graphically explain this? Or do you understand the difference between male and female genitalia.

    Interesting opinion, but studies have shown that these alternative arrangements are a counterculture and stigmatized.
    •••Yes. It's an opinion. Who are these people that stigmatize this? How do they even know about it? What does it matter? Who cares?

    In what way do you feel they are not stigmatized?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    Do explain...



    Oh there is!!!



    polyandry defined: A pattern of mating in which a female animal has more than one male mate

    source: https://www.google.com/#q=polyandry&...w=1366&bih=552



    Interesting opinion, but studies have shown that these alternative arrangements are a counterculture and stigmatized. In what way do you feel they are not stigmatized?

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    Re: Should we take steps to remove the social stigma on polyandry and polygamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by MusicAdventurer View Post
    OK... for arguments sake though... lets say these types of relationships were encouraged so much that they were no longer counterculture and became mainstream. I am not sure this would happen unless most men slowly became babbling idiots, but for arguments sake, lets say it did. Lets say polygamy became the norm. How many pissed off men do you think there would be in the world? Sure the few men with all the money most certainly would consent and the women would hesitantly consent.... however.... I am not sure how impressed all the single men would be about it!! LOL! In all reality, it would probably be a recipe for disaster for society (read about the effects of having sex compared to not having sex). So really... no harm done right?
    Its my understanding that "one man one woman" marriage was adopted BECAUSE of the problems you relate.

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    Re: Should we take steps to remove the social stigma on polyandry and polygamy?

    This thread seems to have lost track of the OP. Aren't we discussing polyandry, not polygamy? Or am I confused?

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    Re: Should we take steps to remove the social stigma on polyandry and polygamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    This thread seems to have lost track of the OP. Aren't we discussing polyandry, not polygamy? Or am I confused?
    The OP is just talking about plural marriage in general (polygamy). I think he didn't realize what he wrote (term wise) or forgot which each term is or just jumbled them up. No biggie - happens often because there are 3 terms and they're easily confused.

    Polygamy = marriage involving more than 2 partners, gender unspecified . . . can be either of the following:

    Polyandry = marriage of one female, multiple males. (Poly = many. Andry = male)
    Polygyny = marriage of one male, multiple females. (Poly = many. Gyny = female)
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    Re: Should we take steps to remove the social stigma on polyandry and polygamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    "Hi, I'm Randy. I have sixteen wives and one husband. My girlfriend thinks I'm not very enlightened having just one male spouse, but what does she know? She's just the mistress".

    Ah, the carnal charms of unfettered Socialism....
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    Re: Should we take steps to remove the social stigma on polyandry and polygamy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The OP is just talking about plural marriage in general (polygamy). I think he didn't realize what he wrote (term wise) or forgot which each term is or just jumbled them up. No biggie - happens often because there are 3 terms and they're easily confused.

    Polygamy = marriage involving more than 2 partners, gender unspecified . . . can be either of the following:

    Polyandry = marriage of one female, multiple males. (Poly = many. Andry = male)
    Polygyny = marriage of one male, multiple females. (Poly = many. Gyny = female)
    Yes this is correct... its about polygamy (i.e. polyandry and polygyny) just jumbled the terms.. lol!

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