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Thread: Should compulsory education of our youth be eliminated?

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    Should compulsory education of our youth be eliminated?

    Utah lawmaker calls for end of compulsory education | Deseret News
    SALT LAKE CITY Compulsory education laws have resulted in parents disengaging themselves from the responsibility to oversee the education of their children and have caused schools to falter under the burden of being all things to all people.

    Those points are among the arguments made by Sen. Aaron Osmond, R-South Jordan, in an article posted Friday on the blog of the Utah State Senate, in which Osmond called for the end of compulsory education in the state.

    "Some parents act as if the responsibility to educate, and even care for their child, is primarily the responsibility of the public school system," Osmond wrote. "As a result, our teachers and schools have been forced to become surrogate parents, expected to do everything from behavioral counseling, to providing adequate nutrition, to teaching sex education, as well as ensuring full college and career readiness."

    Osmond wrote further that in the current state of public education, teachers do not receive meaningful support from parents, while at the same time parents become frustrated that schools are not able to meet the individual needs of their children. Osmond told the Deseret News that there is a need to shift the public mindset to viewing learning as an opportunity as opposed to an obligation, while also reinforcing the idea of liberty and choice.

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    Re: Should compulsory education of our youth be eliminated?

    No, this is one of the most absurd arguments I've ever heard.

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    Re: Should compulsory education of our youth be eliminated?

    No. But I believe the education system needs serious reforms though.

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    Re: Should compulsory education of our youth be eliminated?

    I'm all in favor of parents playing a more active role in their children's lives, but this argument is just plain idiotic.

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    Re: Should compulsory education of our youth be eliminated?

    It already has been. "Common Core" has replaced a requirement to be educated with little more than some effort showed to prove that one isn't actively seeking not to become educated. It's dropped standards to next to nothing.

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    Re: Should compulsory education of our youth be eliminated?

    Mandatory public education should be eliminated. Vouchers are the way to go.

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    Re: Should compulsory education of our youth be eliminated?

    I agree. Education is a necessity. But I do believe some parents are being too reliant on the education system to teach their kid life lessons. That isn't the schools job, but the parents.

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    Re: Should compulsory education of our youth be eliminated?

    Sen. Osmond is one of the famous Osmond Brothers singing group from the 1960s, one of Donny and Marie's older brothers, and for awhile (at least) was home-schooled. He's also a Mormon, and Mormons are famous for such "hands on" child-rearing perspectives.

    Thus his perspective is understandably exceptional, and not likely to sit well with the mainstream.

    I mean, who does he think will do all the home-schooling all across America?

    All those stay-at-home moms?
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    Re: Should compulsory education of our youth be eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    Mandatory public education should be eliminated. Vouchers are the way to go.
    Vouchers are better than what we have now but a full refund tax credit would be best. With vouchers there's more of a risk of government control. "Schools that accept our vouchers must teach (or indoctrinate); a,b,c,x,y,z." If its a tax credit, the parents pays the bill but is then directly refunded in full. Compare to someone donating money to a charity and getting a tax deduction vs. the control that would come with the government giving money directly to the charity.

    But I think being educated at either an accredited school and/or students being able to meet annual testing standards should be mandatory up to 19 or completion of 12th grade, whichever comes first with voluntary education through a bachelors degree, indirectly funded by tax-payers and may be delayed once 12th grade is completed.
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    Re: Should compulsory education of our youth be eliminated?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Utah lawmaker calls for end of compulsory education | Deseret News
    SALT LAKE CITY Compulsory education laws have resulted in parents disengaging themselves from the responsibility to oversee the education of their children and have caused schools to falter under the burden of being all things to all people.

    Those points are among the arguments made by Sen. Aaron Osmond, R-South Jordan, in an article posted Friday on the blog of the Utah State Senate, in which Osmond called for the end of compulsory education in the state.

    "Some parents act as if the responsibility to educate, and even care for their child, is primarily the responsibility of the public school system," Osmond wrote. "As a result, our teachers and schools have been forced to become surrogate parents, expected to do everything from behavioral counseling, to providing adequate nutrition, to teaching sex education, as well as ensuring full college and career readiness."

    Osmond wrote further that in the current state of public education, teachers do not receive meaningful support from parents, while at the same time parents become frustrated that schools are not able to meet the individual needs of their children. Osmond told the Deseret News that there is a need to shift the public mindset to viewing learning as an opportunity as opposed to an obligation, while also reinforcing the idea of liberty and choice.

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    Compulsory education eliminated? No
    Compulsory PUBLIC school education? No
    I would rather a few options be available, even vouchers if well thought out and implimented.

    Despite the fact that I could have educated my children FAR better than the public school system, I believe the system serves a function, but needs reform in many areas. Serious reform!!

    To suppliment the drivel taught in public school systems, I required my children to adhere to additional lessons in "classical" education subjects. And thank the god of congnitive thinking, logic and critical analysis that I did!

    I have had so many issues with "educators" in the public system that it makes me wonder if they even HAVE standards for teachers. Not to mention the fact that public schools are not in the business of educating ... not really.
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