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71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

Do you think the Founding Fathers would be disapointed in the US.

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 65.3%
  • No

    Votes: 14 18.7%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 12 16.0%

  • Total voters
    75
71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The Way The Nation Has Turned Out | Techdirt

I would be among the 71%. If you look at us now and compare us to the past we have become a lazy, arrogant, and stupid people. And the goverment has done many things that are unconstitutional (ex secret laws). Do you think they would be dissaponted in us, and is so why?

My guess is that they knew well the difference between ideals and the pragmatic necessities of policy making ... like on one side creating an emphasis on basic human rights and civil rights, but on the other side accepting or even embracing slavery.

They'd think it's the same game they were playing, just different chiffres.

If they'd be disappointed would depend on the question if they're really what people believe they were, or what they are ... and I guess they were not heroes, but just pragmatic politicians.
 
A legend in your own mind! :lamo

As long as you admit that your argument was race-baiting crap and devoid of any intellectual value, I'm happy.
 
As long as you admit that your argument was race-baiting crap and devoid of any intellectual value, I'm happy.
I didn't so I guess you're unhappy.

You'll notice I didn't quote your insulting garbage the first time.

As for intellectual value, may opinion is as good as yours. Are you admitting that your opinion of them changing has no intellectual value?
 
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I didn't so I guess you're unhappy.

You'll notice I didn't quote your insulting garbage.

You admitted that your "point"/argument was crap, more than once.

Good day.
 
You admitted that your "point"/argument was crap, more than once.

Good day.
I didn't admit to race baiting because it wasn't. Quit being dense.


My confirmation of your opinion of my argument was based on you confirming a likewise opinion of your argument. If that's the way you see it, then you have also admitted your argument is crap - more than once.

Good day.
 
71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The Way The Nation Has Turned Out | Techdirt

I would be among the 71%. If you look at us now and compare us to the past we have become a lazy, arrogant, and stupid people. And the goverment has done many things that are unconstitutional (ex secret laws). Do you think they would be dissaponted in us, and is so why?


Obviously.


Many people today, even among scholars, simply can't accept that The United States was set up as a slave owning republic by an Anglo ruling class. It simply was what it was. So to try and and say that "Oh, no, the Anglo slave owning class would be fine with things today." would obviously be extremely naive of history. Then again I think this reality goes to the main point of the issue, that most people simply are 5 minute politicos with almost no historical knowledge at all. That explains our modern culture rather well frankly. We have 23 year old women screaming about "What this country stands for" who couldn't for the life of them tell you where Poland is on a map. That is our current situation. Horrifying is a moderate way to describe it.

If you told most Americans Egypt was run by Africans, they'd outright believe it. These are the same people that have 'strong feelings' about critical issues to the country. It's no wonder why multicultural societies collapse on themselves. All views merge into a politically correct, 'Feel Good' nothingness with no historical knowledge because the people that have actual historically succinct views are condemned as radicals thanks to everyone else's view of history being nationally sanctioned History Channel documentaries.
 
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