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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    - Their founding documents have become the benchmark for all countries on earth that desire freedom and government at the consent of the governed.
    That part is a lie but otherwise your good.

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    Having opinions all over the map is a good sign of a person capable of autonomous thinking. Felix -2011

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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    I think most of them would be shocked to see that what they started still exists. That's only if you could get them away from looking at cars or staring at a plane in the sky.

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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    DÉCLARATION DES DROITS DE L’HOMME ET DU CITOYEN
    Constitution Acts of Canada (Especially the 1982 Constitution Act)
    Some countries that are part of the commonwealth. (Australia, New Zealand, etc.)
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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    George Washington warned about a two party government when he stepped down after his second term, he believed that it would be the downfall of a successful governing body to have polarized politics. Looks like he was about spot on.
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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Personally I think we are worse now than we were 50 years ago. We are in decline.
    I'm sorry you feel that way.
    I was a young lad fifty years ago,and for me and my parents, life in America wasn't all that great for us back then.
    I am very grateful that in the last 50 years,this dark skin creole child of a porter and house keeper has been allowed,through my hard work,to rise up in the restaurant business to become an owner of a mid-size (and growing) culinary management company that owns several restaurants,catering,banquet halls,bars and nightclubs,and employs several hundred people of different colors,ethnicity,beliefs etc.

    I am thankful that I live in a country that allows me to own a business that caters to people of all colors,races,ethnicity,etc,and not just,"for colored people only".

    I am thankful I live in a country that has allowed me to become prosperous and wealthy due to my own hard work,and not held back because of the color of my skin.

    I am thankful that I live in a country that has allowed me to be able to own and live in a very nice house in a very nice neighborhood that wasn't designated "for colored people only".

    I am thankful that I live in a country that has allowed me to be able to send my dark skinned daughters to the very best schools I can afford that wasn't designated "for colored people only".

    I am thankful that I live in a country that has allowed me to meet,fall in love,and marry a wonderful Caucasian woman with being "Emmet Tilled" because of it.

    I am thankful that I live in a country that allows me the freedoms that my parents were denied and fought for.

    If you feel you are worse off than you were (or could have been) 50 years ago,I'm sorry to hear that.
    I for one have absolutely no desire at all to go back to the way things were 50 years ago.

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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    I'm sorry you feel that way.
    I was a young lad fifty years ago,and for me and my parents, life in America wasn't all that great for us back then.
    I am very grateful that in the last 50 years,this dark skin creole child of a porter and house keeper has been allowed,through my hard work,to rise up in the restaurant business to become an owner of a mid-size (and growing) culinary management company that owns several restaurants,catering,banquet halls,bars and nightclubs,and employs several hundred people of different colors,ethnicity,beliefs etc.

    I am thankful that I live in a country that allows me to own a business that caters to people of all colors,races,ethnicity,etc,and not just,"for colored people only".

    I am thankful I live in a country that has allowed me to become prosperous and wealthy due to my own hard work,and not held back because of the color of my skin.

    I am thankful that I live in a country that has allowed me to be able to own and live in a very nice house in a very nice neighborhood that wasn't designated "for colored people only".

    I am thankful that I live in a country that has allowed me to be able to send my dark skinned daughters to the very best schools I can afford that wasn't designated "for colored people only".

    I am thankful that I live in a country that has allowed me to meet,fall in love,and marry a wonderful Caucasian woman with being "Emmet Tilled" because of it.

    I am thankful that I live in a country that allows me the freedoms that my parents were denied and fought for.

    If you feel you are worse off than you were (or could have been) 50 years ago,I'm sorry to hear that.
    I for one have absolutely no desire at all to go back to the way things were 50 years ago.
    Black rights are only one issue. And that is one where we are better off today, well maybe, depends how you see the Zimmerman Trial.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Black rights are only one issue. And that is one where we are better off today, well maybe, depends how you see the Zimmerman Trial.
    Me being black had nothing to do with the successes (and failures) I have had in the past 50 years.
    It has to do with the choices I made in how to handle " the cards life has dealt me".

    I didn't follow the Zimmerman trial,nor do I give a crap about it.It had nothing to do with me.
    I was too busy trying to run my company and business ventures and trying to make it grow and prosper.
    I was too busy trying to make sure that my employees were rewarded for the hard work they put in in these troubled economic times and continue to have a place to make a living at.
    I was to busy trying to please my customers and serve their needs so that they can continue to be valued customers and recommend me to new ones.
    I was more concerned with how to be a good husband to my wife,a father to my daughters,and a good grandpa to my grandchildren.

    Maybe if more people in this country were more concerned with what is going own in their own lives first, and the things that truly effect their lives,and less concerned with things like the Zimmerman trial,what the Kardassians are up to,what gay people are doing,who's marrying who,what that woman over there is doing with her womb,etc, maybe,just maybe,this country wouldn't be in such decline.

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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Me being black had nothing to do with the successes (and failures) I have had in the past 50 years.
    It has to do with the choices I made in how to handle " the cards life has dealt me".

    I didn't follow the Zimmerman trial,nor do I give a crap about it.It had nothing to do with me.
    I was too busy trying to run my company and business ventures and trying to make it grow and prosper.
    I was too busy trying to make sure that my employees were rewarded for the hard work they put in in these troubled economic times and continue to have a place to make a living at.
    I was to busy trying to please my customers and serve their needs so that they can continue to be valued customers and recommend me to new ones.
    I was more concerned with how to be a good husband to my wife,a father to my daughters,and a good grandpa to my grandchildren.

    Maybe if more people in this country were more concerned with what is going own in their own lives first, and the things that truly effect their lives,and less concerned with things like the Zimmerman trial,what the Kardassians are up to,what gay people are doing,who's marrying who,what that woman over there is doing with her womb,etc, maybe,just maybe,this country wouldn't be in such decline.
    I highly disagree, a lot of those things, such as abortion, homosexuality, are the reasons we are in decline.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The Way The Nation Has Turned Out | Techdirt

    I would be among the 71%. If you look at us now and compare us to the past we have become a lazy, arrogant, and stupid people. And the goverment has done many things that are unconstitutional (ex secret laws). Do you think they would be dissaponted in us, and is so why?
    They'd probably be disappointed that slavery had been abolished, and horrified to find black people and women could actually vote.

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