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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    If anything, they'd have mixed feelings. With the bad, there's alot of good. Even in our struggling time, we're at the top and have achieved things none of them could have foreseen. People are too quick to say the founding fathers would be totally disappointed with the US at the moment. They would probably be impressed by some things, disappointed by others, and not surprised about a few problematic things that came to pass. But no one can really say in the end, I suppose.

    If we went back to see America during its' early days, most wouldn't be too pleased either.

    The USA of today is hell of a lot better than the one during their era.

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    I think if given the opportunity of hindsight, I think they'd first be disappointed in themselves for not dealing with slavery and mistreatment of Native Americans upfront. I think they'd be disappointed in some things but at the same time incredibly proud of what we've done.

    - Their founding documents have become the benchmark for all countries on earth that desire freedom and government at the consent of the governed.
    - People doing everything they can and getting on waiting lists to make America their home.
    - The country they founded invented modern aviation, electric light, the computer, the Internet, satellite communications and put human beings on the moon.

    More in awe than disappointed I think.
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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    We no longer own slaves. Some of the founders would definitely find that disappointing.
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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    We no longer own slaves. Some of the founders would definitely find that disappointing.
    At that time, all of the world would find it unthinkable. If a founder was brought up to date on history and science, I imagine they all had the capacity to understand that slavery is nonsense.

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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The Way The Nation Has Turned Out | Techdirt

    I would be among the 71%. If you look at us now and compare us to the past we have become a lazy, arrogant, and stupid people. And the goverment has done many things that are unconstitutional (ex secret laws). Do you think they would be dissaponted in us, and is so why?
    I'm not so sure ... I think it would be mixed ... they didn't like the masses and the masses don't have that much power today ... no slavery might disappoint some of them and they'd for sure be appalled that we had a black president ... they would probably miss the horse poop on the streets and wonder why mounted police had bags under their horses hinies ...

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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    At that time, all of the world would find it unthinkable. If a founder was brought up to date on history and science, I imagine they all had the capacity to understand that slavery is nonsense.
    There were rumblings in England about slavery that started around the same time and even some of our founders didn't want to recognize it.
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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    There were rumblings in England about slavery that started around the same time and even some of our founders didn't want to recognize it.
    The late 1700s was a vastly different time. There was slavery everywhere in the world.

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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    I'm not so sure ... I think it would be mixed ... they didn't like the masses and the masses don't have that much power today ... no slavery might disappoint some of them and they'd for sure be appalled that we had a black president ... they would probably miss the horse poop on the streets and wonder why mounted police had bags under their horses hinies ...
    They may like the internet, particularly blogs. The newspapers of the era were pretty rancid turds, though there was the occasional bright spot. At the most you got a Weekly Standard or The Nation, but usually it was like Townhall or gossip columns. Another reason not to buy into everything that generation liked.
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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    They may like the internet, particularly blogs. The newspapers of the era were pretty rancid turds, though there was the occasional bright spot. At the most you got a Weekly Standard or The Nation, but usually it was like Townhall or gossip columns. Another reason not to buy into everything that generation liked.
    but good thing they didn't have it, otherwise we'd still be a British colony ...

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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The late 1700s was a vastly different time. There was slavery everywhere in the world.
    I agree slavery was virtually everywhere but not everyone agreed with it, including some of our founders. By 1807 Britain outlawed it (in Britain, I believe most of their colonies still had it). Something like that doesn't come out of nowhere, there had to have been some kind of movement that direction for several decades prior to 1807.
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    Re: 71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The USA

    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    71% Of Americans Believe The Founding Fathers Would Be Disappointed At The Way The Nation Has Turned Out | Techdirt

    I would be among the 71%. If you look at us now and compare us to the past we have become a lazy, arrogant, and stupid people. And the goverment has done many things that are unconstitutional (ex secret laws). Do you think they would be dissaponted in us, and is so why?
    Who gives a ****, a lot of the founding fathers were ****ty people too.

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