View Poll Results: Was confiscating feminine hygrene products acceptable in this case?

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    3 5.88%
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    10 19.61%
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Thread: Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

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    Re: Was This Acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The lesson is that PR is important.
    Probably not in this case.

    They collected what they could to avoid things being thrown. That seems to be what their actual policy was. If you're willing to ignore that and instead choose to believe they were only collecting tampons because evil men want to enslave women and their bodies or something equally ridiculous than it probably doesn't matter what policy they had in place. This topic is more of an issue of partisan hackery than anything else.

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    Re: Was This Acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Probably not in this case.

    They collected what they could to avoid things being thrown. If you're willing to ignore that and instead choose to believe they were only collecting tampons because evil men want to enslave women and their bodies or something equally ridiculous than it probably doesn't matter what policy they had in place. This topic is more of an issue of partisan hackery than anything else.
    Considering that a **** storm ensued then to say that pr doesn't matter is demonstrably wrong.

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    Re: Was This Acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Considering that a **** storm ensued then to say that pr doesn't matter is demonstrably wrong.
    No, it just shows that you're very uninformed on this issue.

    Virtually everything involving abortion has resulted in a **** storm since it became an issue and, regardless of their policy, this hearing still would have resulted in a **** storm. That's just the way it goes with this issue. There is not a PR firm in the world that could come up with a campaign that would have avoided the shirt storm.

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    Re: Was This Acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I don't think you're supposed to like it if you're on the recieving end of the protest. But it's amusing that a Libertarian would be against the first amendment right to free expression.

    Freedom of Speech (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
    free expression, in no way, suggests a right to commit assault and battery.

    Honestly, the entire notion is ****ing stupid, and it's amazing someone would try delivering such in a condescending tone

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    Re: Was This Acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Considering that a **** storm ensued then to say that pr doesn't matter is demonstrably wrong.
    The fact that people react to stupid **** doesn't grant the stupid **** some type of inherent merit.

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    Re: Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Thats the thing about freedom and/or civil disobedience is that it doesn't require permission.
    But it does have consequences, so it's not really truly freedom.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Was This Acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The beauty of the constitution is in it's simplicity and if it listed every known and unknown medium of free expression then it wouldn't be so simple now would it? So if you're looking for specifics you won't find it but you might find it in precedent, court rulings and writings of the fore father's intent.


    NTL, I'd love to see some of those conservative bullies say they were assaulted by a tampon. lol
    Your claim to 1st amendment rights of expression stop when an object thrown with the intent to strike another does so.

    You have no right to throw things at people you don't like..... unless you are a toddler throwing a temper tantrum.

    Quite childish if you ask me... and DEFINITELY not covered under the 1st amendment.
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    Re: Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The legislative floor isn't holy or sacrosanct....they could be standing in a barn for all that matters.
    And one still wouldn't have the right to throw objects at another as an expression of protest.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

    Here are additional details from the Houston Chronicle:

    Texas Senate Administration chairman Kevin Eltife said Monday the Texas Department of Public Safety learned that some groups planned to heave projectiles into the Texas Senate gallery by monitoring online chatter in the days preceding Friday’s debate.

    ...He stressed that DPS officials had told him that the aggressors were not part of the anti-abortion or abortion rights movements, but “third party groups” who wanted to make a statement. “They specifically said it was not Planned Parenthood…but some third party groups trying to stir things up,” said Eltife.

    DPS has been criticized for “confiscating” tampons, but Eltife said that action occurred after officers stopped a woman with a cache of “about 75″ feminine hygiene products attempting to enter the Senate Gallery. News reporters on Friday could not find a trooper who could personally verify that jars of urine and feces were confiscated. A DPS press release claimed that 1 jar of urine, 18 jars of feces and three filled with paint were found by officers.

    Senator says “blogosphere” tipped DPS off to potential violence | Texas Politics | a Chron.com blog

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    Re: Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    but Eltife said that action occurred after officers stopped a woman with a cache of “about 75″ feminine hygiene products attempting to enter the Senate Gallery.
    maybe it was a heavy flow day?

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