View Poll Results: Was confiscating feminine hygrene products acceptable in this case?

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    3 5.88%
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    9 17.65%
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    10 19.61%
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Thread: Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

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    Re: Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It does when you are on the legislative floor.
    The legislative floor isn't holy or sacrosanct....they could be standing in a barn for all that matters.

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    Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    The legislative floor isn't holy or sacrosanct....they could be standing in a barn for all that matters.
    Where they do the business, yes it is. If you don't think so, I would like to see you try it. See what happens. I bet you are escorted out at the very least.
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    Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    No, throwing stuff at others isn't a First Amendment right. And the subject line of this thread is deceptive--it suggests that what this was about was feminine hygiene products when it wasn't. It was about the state police following a tip and searching protesters' bags for anything that could be used as a projectile.

    I don't the DPS was thinking about what those products are used for; they were focused on preventing the senators or others from being assaulted. When women complained to Dem leader Kirk Watson and he then complained to the DPS, it reversed its decision. Oddly, this seems to be forgotten in the fauxrage over "tampon-gate."
    Oddly enough, I would say the ones that forgot it the most were those who were supporting the tampon grab in the first place. The removal of the order was due to miscommunication and bad form, removing the order's good sense as a result.
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    Re: Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Where they do the business, yes it is. If you don't think so, I would like to see you try it. See what happens. I bet you are escorted out at the very least.
    The state troopers were there at the authorization of the Texas Senate for the express purpose of enforcing the Senate Rules of Conduct.

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    Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    The state troopers were there at the authorization of the Texas Senate for the express purpose of enforcing the Senate Rules of Conduct.
    Except this was an order rescinded upon complaint and miscommunication. The demand to remove all tampons could still be considered poor, whilst the mechanism to enforce the demands were still justified.
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    Re: Was This Acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I don't know if it's acceptable or not, but the symbolism of confiscating feminine hygiene products at a senate debate on abortion was an outright media coup for Pro-Choice: the image that conservative men just want to control women's bodies is driven home rather effectively. The fact that the senate didn't seem to really consider the impact this would have only further establishes a general cluelessness on their part.
    I think they pretty much confiscated everything that could be thrown though.

    Someone just happened to take a picture of the tampon.

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    Re: Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Except this was an order rescinded upon complaint and miscommunication. The demand to remove all tampons could still be considered poor, whilst the mechanism to enforce the demands were still justified.
    I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say here.

    But I do think that when it was pointed out to the DPS that some of the women needed these products, the reversal was accommodating.

    What I think is stunning is the silly focus on the damned tampons and the sloganeering about it. The issue was the intent of some of the protesters to create mayhem and to assault their elected reps in the hope of once again preventing a vote. That's the outrage, and it should be non-partisan.

    Doesn't matter what the issue is or who's side of what you're on: We don't actively try to prevent our representatives from doing their sworn duty.

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    Re: Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So, the story is going around, you probably have heard about it. Big abortion debate/vote in Texas yesterday, and on fears that some protesters might throw them into the assembly, tampons and pads where being confiscated before people could enter the viewing area.

    Attachment 67150283

    Supposedly the Texas legislature heard from somewhere that they might be possibly used to disrupt the proceedings. So my question is, do you find this action justifiable?
    If there was reason to believe it would be used inappropriately? Absolutely acceptable. Afterall, we do not have the right to bear tampons...
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    Re: Was This Acceptable?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    I think they pretty much confiscated everything that could be thrown though.

    Someone just happened to take a picture of the tampon.
    The lesson is that PR is important.

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    Was This Acceptable? [W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say here.

    But I do think that when it was pointed out to the DPS that some of the women needed these products, the reversal was accommodating.

    What I think is stunning is the silly focus on the damned tampons and the sloganeering about it. The issue was the intent of some of the protesters to create mayhem and to assault their elected reps in the hope of once again preventing a vote. That's the outrage, and it should be non-partisan.

    Doesn't matter what the issue is or who's side of what you're on: We don't actively try to prevent our representatives from doing their sworn duty.
    As I said before, unused tampons are going to be treated more carefully as a result of need and societal expectations for emergency use and privacy. Furthermore, once the order was removed, that should have sold it to anyone doubting the wrongheadedness of the original order to confiscate. However, despite the order being rescinded, folks here still argued that somehow this was a completely justified, not unreasonable demand, even though it was.

    I agree, you shouldn't be allowed to disrupt legislative proceedings, and if you do, you should expect punishment. That being said, some orders are still wrongheaded.
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