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    Re: Is this a good explanation for sequestration?

    I always defer to JokeBuddha.com for political analysis.

    A guy stopped at a local gas station. After filling his gas tank, hepaid the bill and bought a soft drink. He stood by his car to drink his cola and watched a couple of men working along the roadside. One man would dig a hole two or three feet deep and then move on.
    The other man came along behind him and filled in the hole. While one was digging a new hole, the other was 25 feet behind filling in the hole. The men worked right past the guy with the soft drink and went on down the road.
    "I can't stand this," said the man tossing the soft drink can into a trash container and heading down the road toward the workmen. "Hold it, hold it,"he said to the men. "Can you tell me what's going on here with all this digging and refilling?"
    "Well, we work for the government, and we're just doing our job," one of the men said.
    "But one of you is digging a hole, and the other fills it up. You're not really accomplishing anything. Aren't you wasting the taxpayers' money?"
    "You don't understand, mister," one of the men said, leaning on his shovel and wiping his brow. "Normally there are three of us: me, Elmer and Leroy. I dig the hole, Elmer sticks in the tree, and Leroy, here, puts the dirt back. Because of the budget, Elmer's job's been cut... so now it's just me and Leroy."

    source: A Guy Stopped at a Local Gas Station... Joke

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    Re: Is this a good explanation for sequestration?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    I don't understand all this outrage over cancelling White House tours, as if White House tours are some sort of critical service the government provides. I can't think of a better example of unnecessary government spending than that.


    How about teaching IRS officials to line dance? How about the that the Department of defense has an ecologist employed. How about providing a private jet for Congressional Officials to fly about as they desire?

    Regarding the White House tours, whether or not they are needed is not the question at all in this. Obviously, this and about half of the Federal government is not needed.

    What is ridiculous is that they needed to cut 85 billion dollars and the 17 thousand it costs for the White House tours was at the top of the list. This was an obvious political move by the campaigner in chief and it backfired on him.

    This was probably the first time that the veneer of integrity that covers this Chicago machine politician intimidator was scratched.
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    Re: Is this a good explanation for sequestration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I'll remember posts like these, and when a Republican is president I'll criticize him for not traveling everywhere in a 1985 Honda Civic (without a security detail, of course).



    You would be welcome to do so. Waste is waste. 100 million to tour Africa is just silly when the Middle East is in flames, he's fingering his nose at the countries that used to be our allies, he's lying to the American people and using the spying organizations to spy on us and is selectively enforcing laws that he likes or does not like and creating laws that don't exist to punish specifice businesses and citizens he is angry with or with which his contributors have an issue.

    We have a tyrant in the White House and this is the result of the spineless and directionless Congress. The lack of Spine in Congress has been evident since the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution was passed and, no, I am not saying this is a partisan issue. The lack of courage and ability and talent and intelligence is bi-partisan blight on our country and we will shortly be a memory because of it.

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    Re: Is this a good explanation for sequestration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I'll remember posts like these, and when a Republican is president I'll criticize him for not traveling everywhere in a 1985 Honda Civic (without a security detail, of course).
    I always laughed at people who criticized Bush's vacations and people who criticized Obama's vacations, but things are different now that the WH tours have been cancelled.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Is this a good explanation for sequestration?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    How about teaching IRS officials to line dance?
    Sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    How about the that the Department of defense has an ecologist employed.
    Possibly, depends on what his/her purpose is.

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    How about providing a private jet for Congressional Officials to fly about as they desire?
    Sure

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Regarding the White House tours, whether or not they are needed is not the question at all in this. Obviously, this and about half of the Federal government is not needed.
    Then why are you upset they canceled the white house tours?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    What is ridiculous is that they needed to cut 85 billion dollars and the 17 thousand it costs for the White House tours was at the top of the list. This was an obvious political move by the campaigner in chief and it backfired on him.
    What's at "top of the list" is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what gets cut and what doesn't. Bitching about the government spending too much and then bitching when the government cuts spending on unnecessary programs is hypocritical.

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    This was probably the first time that the veneer of integrity that covers this Chicago machine politician intimidator was scratched.

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    Re: Is this a good explanation for sequestration?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Sure.



    Possibly, depends on what his/her purpose is.



    Sure



    Then why are you upset they canceled the white house tours?



    What's at "top of the list" is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what gets cut and what doesn't. Bitching about the government spending too much and then bitching when the government cuts spending on unnecessary programs is hypocritical.






    If they had actually cut the amount spent, that would be a good thing. All they did was cut the rate of growth. That Rate of growth has resulted in a doubling of the Federal Outlays since 2000. This is outlandish and it represents the utter and complete lack of any kind of restraint in spending by the thieves we have sent to Washington.

    And, no, this not a partisan attack on the Democrats. The Republicans are just as bad. The Democrats say the want to spend more and they do. The Republicans want to spend less, but that difference exists in fractions of percents.

    Both parties are peopled by lying thieves who steal our money to bribe us to gain votes. The difference between them exists only in the minds of the morons who have sold their loyalty to them.
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    Re: Is this a good explanation for sequestration?

    Quote Originally Posted by windowdressing View Post
    I agree, but after watching the GOP after Obama was elected, it just seemed to fit them especially ... party over country ... even your examples tend toward that side a bit more ...
    Elected officials in theory represent the constituents in their district who elected them to office, not people outside their district who did not vote for them.So if the republicans are opposing Obama its due to the fact that is what their constituents want. It is the same when Bush, Clinton and any other president was in office and the other party opposed them.
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    Re: Is this a good explanation for sequestration?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    If they had actually cut the amount spent, that would be a good thing. All they did was cut the rate of growth.
    That's incorrect. Thus far spending has been reduced by roughly 100 billion dollars when compared to the previous fiscal year.

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    Re: Is this a good explanation for sequestration?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Elected officials in theory represent the constituents in their district who elected them to office, not people outside their district who did not vote for them.So if the republicans are opposing Obama its due to the fact that is what their constituents want. It is the same when Bush, Clinton and any other president was in office and the other party opposed them.
    Is that the reason Republicans are opposing background checks on gun purchases?

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    Re: Is this a good explanation for sequestration?

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    That's incorrect. Thus far spending has been reduced by roughly 100 billion dollars when compared to the previous fiscal year.


    Until the year is completed, no real numbers are actually available.

    However, if we end up spending less, that will be a good thing. We were previously spending about $1.00 for every .60 we collected. What has that difference fallen to?
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