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  • Iím one of the 15% - 20% who think it is working properly.

    3 6.82%
  • Iím one of the 15% - 20% but think any problems can easily be fixed.

    2 4.55%
  • Iím among the 15% - 20% but think itís not the system itís the party running it.

    1 2.27%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% but think itís not the system but the people running it.

    17 38.64%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% but donít think there is anything we can do about it.

    3 6.82%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% but donít think thereís enough support to reinvent it.

    7 15.91%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% and am willing to act, just waiting for the right time.

    8 18.18%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% but just donít give a crap.

    0 0%
  • Iím not American, and not that concernd about your mess.

    3 6.82%
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    Why do you still support our system of government?

    People seem to have a lot of faith in Polls and Statistics. Recently, several polls have indicated somewhere between 15% and 20% of the American people still have faith in the workings of our government. If so, why do you think we still support it?

    I have almost no faith in the workings of our Federal government, and what little there is resides solely within the Federal Court system which seems to be, despite claims otherwise, the last bulwark protecting our individual liberties.

    Both houses of Congress are simply whores for banking and corporate interests, and give lip service to the needs of citizens.

    The Chief Executive and his cabinet are puppets, acting out roles to make themselves seem important. The upper-level management of the various agencies under their control are cronies and political hacks of whichever party got them appointed, and work to undermine whichever opposing party holds the executive office. Lower management are simply drones, doing as little as possible in order to keep their positions and move up the civil service ladder.

    Only the Judicial branch allows some action independent of special interests. Not in all cases of course, political appointments have some sway, but in the main each Judge is trying to balance the scales of justice honestly.

    The moment I lose faith in this last small group is the moment I become fully radicalized.

    Until then, I’m still willing to work within the system and hope for the best.
    Last edited by Captain Adverse; 07-12-13 at 03:50 PM.
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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.” - Churchill


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Oh, you're looking for the form of government that causes humans not to behave like humans. I think that may be difficult, but I'll work on it for a few minutes.

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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    The root of all our problems right now is neoliberalism and a privatized financial system.

    As it stands, the largesse of private business is overtaking our government and all of the public assets we hold dear. Our nation's infrastructure is falling apart, we have upwards of 15% realistic unemployment (perhaps more), and more than 25% of the population is having to turn to the government tit. All the while, the private sector continues to rake in obscene profits that are not being redistributed through trickle down.

    De-privatize the Federal Reserve and give the power of the financial system back to the People, and our government may be able to restore its democratic functions.

    That said, IMO it is far too late. The wealthy are currently building their fortresses and deepening their moats because the writing's on the wall for what's about to happen. With our global empire being artificially kept afloat with fiat money, the government is functioning in name only. Realistically, our economy collapsed in 2008. People should be under no illusions about long term solvency. The ship is being kept afloat so that those with the means can build their shelters. The rest of us are SOL, mostly because Americans are too stupid to have spent the past 15 years doing anything but engaging in pointless partisan bickering. We have been fighting each other instead of our government.

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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.” - Churchill
    This. I support our form of government, because I've not heard anything better proposed.

    That certainly doesn't mean we don't have problems, but I don't see them as being nearly as severe as some others do, and I think they're fixable, if people only cared enough.
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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    You left off the option I would choose.

    I don't.

    It has clearly failed. It's failure clearly indicates there are flaws in the system. Therefore, the system needs to be changed.
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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    You left off the option I would choose.

    I don't.

    It has clearly failed. It's failure clearly indicates there are flaws in the system. Therefore, the system needs to be changed.
    You mean none of the following three fell into your "I Don't?" category?

    1. I’m among the 80% - 85% (who don't trust our system) but don’t think there is anything we can do about it.

    2. I’m among the 80% - 85% (who don't trust our system) and am willing to act, just waiting for the right time.

    3. I’m among the 80% - 85% (who don't trust our system) but just don’t give a crap.

    If you read my opening thread comment I referred to recent polls showing only 15% - 20% trust (and therefore support) our current system. That means the remaining 80% - 85% don't trust in it. Seems like if you don't at all in any form then either 2 or 3 above might fit you. Maybe?
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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.” - Churchill
    Yes, but we are too large to be a true democracy. Too many conflicting wants and needs. This allows the wealthy and powerful to divert the masses with false advertising and confusing legislation so as to amass greater wealth and power in a Federal system.

    Perhaps we should break up into smaller sovereign units, like those 8 counties in Northern Colorado who want to unite with two counties from Kansas to form a new State, only instead we should seek independence from a powerful Federal government?
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    This. I support our form of government, because I've not heard anything better proposed.

    That certainly doesn't mean we don't have problems, but I don't see them as being nearly as severe as some others do, and I think they're fixable, if people only cared enough.
    Well, we could try re-organizing into a system with a Federal government of severely limited powers, uniting States for purposes of defense and international commerce but no more. I think that was the "original plan" which got shanghied by radical Federalists.
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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    You mean none of the following three fell into your "I Don't?" category?

    1. I’m among the 80% - 85% (who don't trust our system) but don’t think there is anything we can do about it.

    2. I’m among the 80% - 85% (who don't trust our system) and am willing to act, just waiting for the right time.

    3. I’m among the 80% - 85% (who don't trust our system) but just don’t give a crap.

    If you read my opening thread comment I referred to recent polls showing only 15% - 20% trust (and therefore support) our current system. That means the remaining 80% - 85% don't trust in it. Seems like if you don't at all in any form then either 2 or 3 above might fit you. Maybe?
    No, not really. I do, for some strange reason, actually give a crap. I can think of many different ways and things that can be done. And no, I am not waiting for the right time. The time is well past. Unfortunately, I am disabled and have to work within the limitations of my physical/mental abilities and progress is just slow. It takes time to develop, test and create different, um, tools, yeah, that would be a good name for them.
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