View Poll Results: Why do you still support our system of government?

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  • Iím one of the 15% - 20% who think it is working properly.

    3 6.82%
  • Iím one of the 15% - 20% but think any problems can easily be fixed.

    2 4.55%
  • Iím among the 15% - 20% but think itís not the system itís the party running it.

    1 2.27%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% but think itís not the system but the people running it.

    17 38.64%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% but donít think there is anything we can do about it.

    3 6.82%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% but donít think thereís enough support to reinvent it.

    7 15.91%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% and am willing to act, just waiting for the right time.

    8 18.18%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% but just donít give a crap.

    0 0%
  • Iím not American, and not that concernd about your mess.

    3 6.82%
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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    I would prefer the US had regional government that were set up like parliaments that handled most things and that the federal government was greatly limited to direct matters of defense an existing social benefits like SS. I think our current system is unsustainable. I feel like we are becoming more like old school communist China than China is today. The only difference is we have elections to create the illusion we have a say.

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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    No, not really. I do, for some strange reason, actually give a crap. I can think of many different ways and things that can be done. And no, I am not waiting for the right time. The time is well past. Unfortunately, I am disabled and have to work within the limitations of my physical/mental abilities and progress is just slow. It takes time to develop, test and create different, um, tools, yeah, that would be a good name for them.
    Gotcha. Well, sorry, I thought I covered all the "I Don't" types I could think of. I never thought of simply "I Don't...(no specified reason)" as being a category. I thought trying to change it (even by revolutionary means) was covered.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    ďDemocracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.Ē - Churchill
    I'd like the US to become a Republic again.

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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    I'd like the US to become a Republic again.
    We claim to be one now. What would you change to fit your idea of a Republic?
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I would prefer the US had regional government that were set up like parliaments that handled most things and that the federal government was greatly limited to direct matters of defense an existing social benefits like SS. I think our current system is unsustainable. I feel like we are becoming more like old school communist China than China is today. The only difference is we have elections to create the illusion we have a say.
    How would we determine regions? And wouldnt that just be putting one more level of government between those we already have? Don't we already have too many levels as it is? (City, County, State, Federal).
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Well, we could try re-organizing into a system with a Federal government of severely limited powers, uniting States for purposes of defense and international commerce but no more. I think that was the "original plan" which got shanghied by radical Federalists.

    At this time, I don't think there is any group of Americans with sufficient numbers and funding and political will to accomplish that.

    We're in a mess, yes... but the behemoth is so huge that bringing it down it like eating an elephant with a sherbet spoon.

    I think we're just going to have to wait until it all falls apart to put it back together again, and HOPE we don't end up even worse off than before.

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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    How would we determine regions? And wouldnt that just be putting one more level of government between those we already have? Don't we already have too many levels as it is? (City, County, State, Federal).
    one arbitrary way is just as good as another/ CA should not be able to dictate policy to the south and the south shouldn't dictate policy to CA.

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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    Oh, you're looking for the form of government that causes humans not to behave like humans. I think that may be difficult, but I'll work on it for a few minutes.
    Humans do behave like humans. That's the problem.

    Why do I support our system of government? Because it is the least terrible form of government yet devised.
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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Well, we could try re-organizing into a system with a Federal government of severely limited powers, uniting States for purposes of defense and international commerce but no more. I think that was the "original plan" which got shanghied by radical Federalists.
    If that didn't work the first time around, why would it work a second time? Face the facts, most people don't want the very weak, limited federal government which was originally outlined in the constitution.
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    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    At this time, I don't think there is any group of Americans with sufficient numbers and funding and political will to accomplish that.

    We're in a mess, yes... but the behemoth is so huge that bringing it down it like eating an elephant with a sherbet spoon.

    I think we're just going to have to wait until it all falls apart to put it back together again, and HOPE we don't end up even worse off than before.
    I agree. But the problem I see is that waiting for the "crash" would probably end us up in a worse place. I think our nation is too large and diverse, we can't seem to get a real consensus on anything. The only ones who seem to agree are major Financial interests, and they all agree what turns a profit for them is the only important thing. "Greed is Good!" ala Ayn Rand.

    I would prefer a peaceful separation into regions and/or individual states with Federal ties for defense and commerce only. I admit I am not sure how well that would work but it would certainly allow each of us as part of a smaller whole to feel we have greater input in the workings.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

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