View Poll Results: Why do you still support our system of government?

Voters
44. You may not vote on this poll
  • Iím one of the 15% - 20% who think it is working properly.

    3 6.82%
  • Iím one of the 15% - 20% but think any problems can easily be fixed.

    2 4.55%
  • Iím among the 15% - 20% but think itís not the system itís the party running it.

    1 2.27%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% but think itís not the system but the people running it.

    17 38.64%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% but donít think there is anything we can do about it.

    3 6.82%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% but donít think thereís enough support to reinvent it.

    7 15.91%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% and am willing to act, just waiting for the right time.

    8 18.18%
  • Iím among the 80% - 85% but just donít give a crap.

    0 0%
  • Iím not American, and not that concernd about your mess.

    3 6.82%
Page 13 of 19 FirstFirst ... 31112131415 ... LastLast
Results 121 to 130 of 186

Thread: Why do you still support our system of government?

  1. #121
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Last Seen
    01-27-15 @ 11:37 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    8,247

    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    That's always been part of American politics.

    Follow the money and you'll see where all our problems lie.
    Yes, that's why I consider it the root of our problems. People want to use violence to impose their choices on others.

  2. #122
    Renaissance Man
    Captain Adverse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Mid-West USA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:44 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    8,543
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Did I miss the part of the OP where these poll results were linked to?
    Nope. I did not include any. They occurred during the original NSA secret monitoring revelations. I assumed them to be common knowledge. I still do. Tuff nuggies.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

  3. #123
    The Light of Truth
    Northern Light's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:33 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,957

    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Yes, that's why I consider it the root of our problems. People want to use violence to impose their choices on others.
    The system is inherently violent, and has been from day one. The problem is that our government does not control the financial system, private entities do.

    Violence is a symptom of a corrupt system, it's not the root of the problem. America has always been partisan, but our constituents are less cooperatve now that their pockets are being lined with obscene amounts of private money.
    Last edited by Northern Light; 07-14-13 at 04:27 PM.

  4. #124
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Last Seen
    01-27-15 @ 11:37 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    8,247

    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    The system is inherently violent, and has been from day one.
    I agree with you.

  5. #125
    Sage
    Geoist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 05:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    9,842

    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Every person who owns a house is not a monarch. You are making up definitions.
    Many people owned houses under monarchies. The issue is not capital (like in houses), but land. A person oppressed under a private government is no different than a person oppressed under a public government.
    "Men did not make the earth ... it is the value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property... Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds." -- Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice
    http://www.wealthandwant.com/

  6. #126
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Last Seen
    01-27-15 @ 11:37 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    8,247

    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Many people owned houses under monarchies. The issue is not capital (like in houses), but land. A person oppressed under a private government is no different than a person oppressed under a public government.
    Houses typically sit upon a piece of land. Every person who owns a piece of land is not a monarch. Again, I think you're making up definitions, and then using your made up definition to claim that Hoppe favors monarchy. He doesn't. He proposes a government that legally protects people and the goods they own from invasion by others. That is not a monarchy.

  7. #127
    Sage
    German guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Berlin, Germany
    Last Seen
    08-24-17 @ 06:57 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    5,187

    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Who would nominate them?
    Don't know. What do you think?

    I just think partisan influence on SC judges should be minimized.
    "Not learning from mistakes is worse than committing mistakes. When you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, it is hard to be tolerant of others and it does not allow even God to be merciful."

  8. #128
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:52 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    89,706

    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Nope. I did not include any. They occurred during the original NSA secret monitoring revelations. I assumed them to be common knowledge. I still do. Tuff nuggies.
    It would seem that your fall back excuse of COMMON KNOWLEDGE actually means "sorry but I an't got squat".

    I was asking for the mentioned poll results - not the formula to the atomic bomb or how many aliens are under Fort Knox.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  9. #129
    Renaissance Man
    Captain Adverse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Mid-West USA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:44 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    8,543
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It would seem that your fall back excuse of COMMON KNOWLEDGE actually means "sorry but I an't got squat".

    I was asking for the mentioned poll results - not the formula to the atomic bomb or how many aliens are under Fort Knox.
    Hmm, sorry I guess my reply wasn't clear. My bad.

    I. Am. Too. Lazy. To. Look. Them. Up. Does that help? LOL

    (SIGH) Okay okay, you've guilted me enough...I'll see what I can do.
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

  10. #130
    Renaissance Man
    Captain Adverse's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Mid-West USA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:44 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    8,543
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: Why do you still support our system of government?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It would seem that your fall back excuse of COMMON KNOWLEDGE actually means "sorry but I an't got squat".

    I was asking for the mentioned poll results - not the formula to the atomic bomb or how many aliens are under Fort Knox.
    From CNN in April reporting on a Pew Research center poll: Nearly 80 percent of Americans say they can't trust Washington and they have little faith that the massive federal bureaucracy can solve the nation's illsÖthis was reported in several news forums.
    Poll: Most Americans Don't Trust Government - CBS News 80 Percent of Americans Don't Trust the Government. Here's Why - Derek Thompson - The Atlantic

    I chose to use the Pew poll cuz I wanted to, and there was an article around the same time on yahoo citing other polls going as low as 15% trust, but I got tired of looking. Here are some others:

    News report of June Gallup showing 10% trust and 90% donít trust Congress; 36% trust and 64% donít trust the President; and 34% trust and 66% donít trsut the Supreme Court. Lack of trust in government a wake-up call - Other Views - MiamiHerald.com

    From CBS news: 78% of Americans distrust government most of the time.
    Why don't Americans trust government? - CBS News

    Fox news, 63% donít trust the U.S. government Fox News Poll: Most Americans don

    Several areas showing major distrust among the majority of Americans for our government. Global Corruption Barometer 2013 - National results

    Now I am not going to dispute figures with you, just answer the poll question (or don't). Thanks
    If I stop responding it doesn't mean I've conceded the point or agree with you. It only means I've made my point and I don't mind you having the last word. Please wait a few minutes before "quoting" me. I often correct errors for a minute or two after I post before the final product is ready.

Page 13 of 19 FirstFirst ... 31112131415 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •