View Poll Results: Is this "open" government?

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    Is this "open" government?

    TBO.com | AP Wires=The nation's top special operations commander ordered military files about the Navy SEAL raid on Osama bin Laden's hideout to be purged from Defense Department computers and sent to the CIA, where they could be more easily shielded from ever being made public. The secret move, described briefly in a draft report by the Pentagon's inspector general, set off no alarms within the Obama administration even though it appears to have sidestepped federal rules and perhaps also the Freedom of Information Act. An acknowledgement by Adm. William McRaven of his actions was quietly removed from the final version of an inspector general's report published weeks ago. A spokesman for the admiral declined to comment. The CIA, noting that the bin Laden mission was overseen by then-CIA Director Leon Panetta before he became defense secretary, said that the SEALs were effectively assigned to work temporarily for the CIA, which has presidential authority to conduct covert operations.

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    Is this legal?
    Why is something so public made secret?
    The CIA briefed the movie people on the assassination, why not us?
    Is this more open gov't promised by Obama?
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    Re: Is this "open" government?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Why is something so public made secret?
    It's not "so public" - it's a secret mission by the CIA using Navy Seals. Do you object to all state secrets regarding special operations? What about it do you not know and yet need to know?


    The CIA briefed the movie people on the assassination, why not us?
    You've been briefed, complete with photos and everything. Why do you need to know every single detail? Are you obsessed with the killing of OBL?

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    Re: Is this "open" government?

    I don't believe they killed OBL in the assassination raid.

    http://intellihub.com/2013/03/27/osa...ix-speaks-out/
    Last edited by joko104; 07-08-13 at 12:24 PM.

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    Re: Is this "open" government?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's not "so public" - it's a secret mission by the CIA using Navy Seals. Do you object to all state secrets regarding special operations? What about it do you not know and yet need to know?




    You've been briefed, complete with photos and everything. Why do you need to know every single detail? Are you obsessed with the killing of OBL?
    The gov't isn't keeping secrets so much as hiding information. As regards the movie, the movie people have to take the CIA's word for what they said happened. Now, the CIA wouldn't lie, distort and deceive to protect and project their "imagery," or would they? Now, we know they want to hide the truth, so make your own decision. I've been in the military and learned the military lies to you constantly and the CIA people we interacted with were the worst of the lot. By the way, the Chinese have all the photos of that secret helicopter and studied it up close and personal, so if you want any info on that, ask them! The Pakistani General Mahmoud of the ISI was a $50,000 paymaster for Mohammed Atta. Of course, you knew that because there are no secrets on 9-11 because that happened right here in the good ol' USA, eh? By the way, is that Gen. Mahmoud on any most wanted lists? My bad, he was probably just sending Atta money for gumballs.

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    Re: Is this "open" government?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's not "so public" - it's a secret mission by the CIA using Navy Seals. Do you object to all state secrets regarding special operations? What about it do you not know and yet need to know?




    You've been briefed, complete with photos and everything. Why do you need to know every single detail? Are you obsessed with the killing of OBL?
    Where are the photos you are talking about?? Last I checked we saw a building with evidence of a raid, but zero evidence (in photographs) of bin Laden being killed.
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    Re: Is this "open" government?

    I'm going to go with reasonable measure to protect information regarding SEAL tactics.
    “Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone.” John Maynard Keynes

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    Re: Is this "open" government?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Where are the photos you are talking about?? Last I checked we saw a building with evidence of a raid, but zero evidence (in photographs) of bin Laden being killed.
    Bah, the only photo on google is fake.

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    Re: Is this "open" government?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Is this legal?
    Yes

    Why is something so public made secret?
    Because the full report contains classified details that the CIA doesn't want public in order to protect identities, and prevent the enemy from having access to information that will allow them to learn and adapt.

    The CIA briefed the movie people on the assassination, why not us?
    The CIA gave them the clean and approved addition that's fun for all ages.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Is this "open" government?

    I think Elvis and Osama are having a good laugh over a steaming cup of coffee in Vienna.

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    Re: Is this "open" government?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Very interesting link. Anytime the CIA is involved, we are only going to get smoke and vapors. Mass media manipulation? Who'd a thunk it?

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