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    Re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    And apparently I conceded 12 times. That i don't get.

    Just another bull headed person that just can't accept the reality that people can disagree.
    Uh… the correct count is 13 concessions… counting that one.

    FTR: Disagreement is fine… nothing wrong with it. But while you're perfectly entitled to disagree, you're not entitled to offer fallacious, non following, disembodied emotional deflection and demand that such is substantive argument.

    Here's a tip: Words mean things. When one uses a word, one should be sure that one understands what it means. And where one is corrected, one should recognize the error and readily admit such, and where the stated position is inalterably crippled by the new information, one should adjust one's position to reflect the new found understanding.

    This is how we learn and grow, it is how civilization PROGRESSES… through sound, open and honest communication.
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    Re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Those are fun. It involves a lot of ignorance to try a biology argument.
    Oh well, sadly it takes time to expose the bad debaters.

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    Re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanbyChoic View Post
    LOL!

    Would you be so kind as to provide the board with other exceptions, wherein the meaning of a term, such as: "Sexual Orientation" is wholly isolated from the words of which the phrase is otherwise intrinsically rooted?

    Does it not occur to the member that, where one must go to such lengths as to detach the meaning of the words used to describe something, that the concept being conveyed MUST be fraudulent?

    For Instance, I like to race. I truly enjoy the competition of one Rocket Ship against another. MAN! I am telling you that I can't get enough of flying through space at incredible speed, particular at low altitude, feeling the wind against my face… Rocket ships, or "Missiles" if ya will, just get my juices flowin'. The thrill of feeling the engine power up, as the tension of the launch mechanism stresses to hold back the fury of the machine which I have built with my own two hands, is like no other.

    Now having said that I'd like to show you a photo of my Rocket Ship…



    But please understand, that the term "Rocket Ship" does not convey the ideas which would otherwise be asserted through the use of "Rocket" and "Ship"… I just think that when I use that term, people will get the idea passed along by the defining traits of the term, which is somewhat more flattering than TRICYCLE!

    Now does that make me a dishonest person, just because I use a term which has no correlation to the words used to comprise the term? No.. I don't think so, because for you to conclude otherwise makes YOU judgmental of me and THAT IS YOUR problem, not mine…

    I am an "HONEST" person… which FTR: when I use the word "Honest" I mean to convey the idea of being free of deceit and exuding truthfulness, despite knowing that I am full of deceit and practice untruthfulness.

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    Now with that said… is there ANYTHING getting through at all, in terms of the calamitous nature of your position, wherein you claim a given term, which you further claim has no correlation to the words used in the term?
    If you want to make a straw man argument in order to make YOURSELF look silly be my guest. Saves me the trouble of MY making you look silly.

    I never said the two words have nothing to do with entire concept. What I said was that the concept is more than just the combination of the two words. A rocket and a ship are different from a rocketship.

    There. You have now been educated on the concept of language.
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    Re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanbyChoic View Post
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    Re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanbyChoic View Post
    Normal, in the instance of sexuality, is established by the design of the human species… which provides for the male to be attracted to females.
    No it isn't... not unless you are discussing sexuality in a statistic sense.

    This specific and wholly incontrovertible fact, serves the purpose of the biological imperative… which FTR: is an objective standard, established by nature and is not subject antiquity due to popular whimsy.
    Since we know that procreation is irrelevant to sexual orientation, your point is irrelevant. I suspect I will be saying this to you a lot as you seem to be having a lot of difficulty with this rather basic concept.


    Procreation is a function of sexual behavior, which serves the biological imperative… which is served through the normality wherein the male is oriented toward sexual gratification through coitus with the female.
    Tell us the difference between sexual behavior and sexual orientation.

    Again, this is sexuality 101, but it always amazes me at how many are unable to make this distinction.

    Procreation is discouraged through the abnormal sexual orientation wherein an individual is sexually attracted to individuals of its own gender.
    Since procreation is irrelevant to sexual orientation, this comment is irrelevant.

    See? Told you.


    Procreation is only possible through the standard established by nature which promotes such. Therefore, procreation is dependent upon sexual orientation. Ergo, your argument is spurious, and as such, it >FAILS<.
    Since procreation is a function of sexual BEHAVIOR, not sexual orientation, it is irrelevant to the latter. Ergo, your argument is a failure.

    Heck, I could have told you that posts ago.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    Re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanbyChoic View Post
    Well, if you can find a point that remains debatable, bring it… I'm open to the discussion.

    But just to recap, we've established that Homosexuality is a deviant, abnormal sexual orientation… that should never be encouraged where the goal is a viable culture.

    What's left?
    Actually, we have established several other things. We have established that you don't understand the difference between procreation and sexual orientation. We have established that you don't know the difference between sexual behavior and sexual orientation. We have established that you have used the word "deviant" in an incorrect fashion. We have established that you don't understand basic biological processes in relation to who partakes in them. We have established that you do not understand that there are several different purposes to sexual activity.

    All in all, we have established that you are quite uneducated on this topic and have been demolished in this debate. It has been quite interesting, though I would suggest that you bring a bit more to this topic the next time you attempt to discuss it. That way the discussion might be a bit more challenging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Having intercourse after menopause imperils society, how again?
    Well, according to AmericanbyChoice, any sexual behavior that does not fulfill the "biological imperative" of procreation is "abnormal." Elsewhere, he compares (by implication at least) any non-procreative sexual behavior to disease...and says we therefore shouldn't encourage it.

    If my tone made me sound like I was espousing such lunatic ideas rather than mocking them, I'm glad to set the record straight!
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    Re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    And apparently I conceded 12 times. That i don't get.
    He's not arguing with you in an honest fashion. So for example, when you use the plainly rhetorical "If I made a concession, then why are you still debating me"....he counts that as another concession.

    This is by definition a dishonest rejoinder, even as he elsewhere remarks about debating with honesty.

    Just shake your head.
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    Re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Strucker View Post
    He's not arguing with you in an honest fashion. So for example, when you use the plainly rhetorical "If I made a concession, then why are you still debating me"....he counts that as another concession.

    This is by definition a dishonest rejoinder, even as he elsewhere remarks about debating with honesty.

    Just shake your head.
    I am done with his childish antics.

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    Re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Whereas your opinion is rooted in bigotry and ignorance.

    Why does it always fall back bigotry and ignorance with you Liberals? Why can't we have a difference of opinion on the issue? You have nothing to add so you throw that crap out there that we are homophobes and bigots which neither are true.
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