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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    Normal is dictated by behavior only. Biology doesn't dictate what is normal, sorry.
    False… Normality is established by the design of the species.

    To wit: the design of the mammal is one wherein the individual is encouraged to procreate through a series of hormonal stimulations, which induce the desire for coitus. Coitus encourages conception, which provides for the highest potential that the species will survive, due to the volume of such instances dictated by the design.

    Such requires the male to fertilize the eggs born by the female… therein establishing the biological norm.

    Perhaps you're conflating the biological imperative with cultural normality… No one that I am aware of is arguing that cultural normality rests in the illusion common to individual perceptions. To the contrary, the issue, is that the cultural normalization of sexual abnormality, sets aside the certainty that such abnormalities are an indicator of a larger problem relevant to the collective and it's environment. Normalizing such can only lead to the rejection of any sense of such, thus promoting the probability that such would be missed or otherwise dismissed, leading to cultural catastrophe.

    In short, it's just a very bad idea.

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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    He is inferior in this conversation. First he went on a tangent about anal sex, which is a practice among heterosexuals far more than homosexuals
    Anal Sex More Popular Than Possibly Expected Among Heterosexual Couples: Center for Disease Control and Prevention Report

    Than he suggested I am hysterical by typing in all caps (the equivalent of screaming) several grade school biological concepts that he didn't even get correct. He doesn't know what normal means.

    He has completely discredited himself.

    I wouldn't expect him to learn about human behavior he seems bent on staying in his prison of false knowledge.
    Either present the evidence which supports the above assertions, wherein your above accusations are directed toward me, or concede that your assertions are false, through your failure to do so.

    FYI: Either way works for me.

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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanbyChoic View Post
    False… Normality is established by the design of the species.

    To wit: the design of the mammal is one wherein the individual is encouraged to procreate through a series of hormonal stimulations, which induce the desire for coitus. Coitus encourages conception, which provides for the highest potential that the species will survive, due to the volume of such instances dictated by the design.

    Such requires the male to fertilize the eggs born by the female… therein establishing the biological norm.

    Perhaps you're conflating the biological imperative with cultural normality… No one that I am aware of is arguing that cultural normality rests in the illusion common to individual perceptions. To the contrary, the issue, is that the cultural normalization of sexual abnormality, sets aside the certainty that such abnormalities are an indicator of a larger problem relevant to the collective and it's environment. Normalizing such can only lead to the rejection of any sense of such, thus promoting the probability that such would be missed or otherwise dismissed, leading to cultural catastrophe.

    In short, it's just a very bad idea.
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    Nothing in there about your opinion on what is the propose of such anatomy.

    What you are describing above is procreation. There is a difference between procreation and sexuality. Gay people procreate that same way straight people do.

    In short, i don't believe the world will end over for percent of people not procreating the way you think they should. Saying otherwise sounds hysterical. Gay people have been around since the dawn of man, it must be part of the "design" your madness and rantings about catastrophy is the only thing that is different.

    Gay people exist, we will not go away because you use backward logic. You just need to deal with it. Or jump in a lake.

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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    Is white skin abnormal?
    Interesting question. It is just a minority of mankind that has white skin, which could, using the sort of reasoning we see in this thread, make it a deviation from the norm, and therefore deviant by definition.

    And, given the popularity of tanning salons, the case could be made that whiteness is a choice.
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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanbyChoic View Post
    False… Normality is established by the design of the species.

    To wit: the design of the mammal is one wherein the individual is encouraged to procreate through a series of hormonal stimulations, which induce the desire for coitus. Coitus encourages conception, which provides for the highest potential that the species will survive, due to the volume of such instances dictated by the design.

    Such requires the male to fertilize the eggs born by the female… therein establishing the biological norm.

    Perhaps you're conflating the biological imperative with cultural normality… No one that I am aware of is arguing that cultural normality rests in the illusion common to individual perceptions. To the contrary, the issue, is that the cultural normalization of sexual abnormality, sets aside the certainty that such abnormalities are an indicator of a larger problem relevant to the collective and it's environment. Normalizing such can only lead to the rejection of any sense of such, thus promoting the probability that such would be missed or otherwise dismissed, leading to cultural catastrophe.

    In short, it's just a very bad idea.
    Is white skin abnormal?
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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    In other words, you can't define any of them. It is quite entertaining watching you be so defeated that you won't even DARE attempt to define the terms. Perhaps you really don't know what they mean. Watching you squirm and spin is certainly interesting.
    Case in point, you lose again.

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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    Nope, bisexual.
    Continue with the that lie, make little difference to me

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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanbyChoic View Post
    False… every male that engages in sexual pursuits with those of their own gender are sexually abnormal, presenting the underlying tendencies of the behavior known as homosexuality.

    That is not even remotely debatable, as the facts are indisputable.
    False. Unless you are speaking statistically, homosexuality is normal. These facts are not even remotely debatable as the facts are indisputable


    The argument is a rationalization which concludes that because the individual has previously or predominately engaged, sexually, with those of the distinct gender, that this indicates a normal sexual orientation. Which would be reasonable and may well have been true at one time; except for the evidence that through whatever influence; be it genetic (for which there is NO evidence, but which stands as the current popular conventional wisdom) or be it environmental; wherein the individual was subjected to a prepubescent sexual encounter with a person of their gender… influencing their sexuality toward that with others of their gender, and in particular, a desire for those in early development, or a trained response, as a result of normalizing out any means to be stimulated by others in their peer group, due to a saturation of pornographic stimulation… the fact remains that the individual is presently seeking sexual gratification with individuals of their own gender.
    There is nothing that you said above that has any basis in reality or evidence. Nothing but your own suppositions which are pretty worthless.

    With regard to 'research', valid examples of such are quite rare, with most being drawn from a cesspool of subjective political activity, which is designed to promote the results which were inevitably 'drawn'.
    Translation: the valid research sinks my position, so I will just dismiss it since I can't refute it. SOP for those on your side of the issue.

    The psychological arts, in terms of science, are rife with fatally flawed processes and are heavily influenced by popular culture.
    Similar translation to the other translation.

    You may disagree and that's fine. I am less interested in your feelings on that, than the reasoning you can produce in support of your position.

    For instance, my reasoning holds that the term 'disorder' is no more relevant to this discussion than is 'person' is to the discussion of human life, as such relates to those individuals working through the earliest stages of human development. Such terms are a political device which are subjectively defined as a means to influence popular opinion.
    Your "reasoning" doesn't seem to understand the meaning of the word "disorder". Let's see you define it.

    And please elaborate on what you mean by the earliest stages of human development.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanbyChoic View Post
    Truly?

    I'm dubious, but to be sure, we should test the hypothesis to see if it is valid, then discuss our findings.

    Now when I am tasked with such a quandary, I have found that the best process is to break down the relevant concepts to determine their fundamental traits. That way we can see if, in fact, the elements merely share commonality or if they are intrinsically bound together… which would mean that, where the elements are untethered, they become distinct.

    So, to get started we must identify the issue.

    Procreation/sexual orientation or Procreation -v- Sexual orientation.

    Having done so, we should now define the terms.

    Procreation: to produce young; to reproduce: to perpetuate the species.

    Sexual: relating to the instincts, physiological processes, and activities connected with instinctive physical attraction designed to promote intimate physical contact between individuals; See: biological imperative; (The biological imperative is the perpetuation of the species)

    Orientation: the determination of the relative position of something or someone

    So we find that procreation is served through the sexual process, therefore the relative position of one's sexual orientation, would be intrinsic to the potential for procreation.

    But, I think I understand what you're saying. It appears to be a rationalization, designed to justify the cultural normalization of the sexual abnormality, which, in this instance would be that OKA: homosexuality. Given the potential for cultural catastrophe, in doing so, I just don't understand why one would say it.

    Would you be so kind as to explain?
    Your error is in your definitions. Your definition of procreation is fine, but you made a major error in defining sexual orientation. You broke up the term. The term itself has a meaning separate from the meaning of the two words, individually. Sexual orientation is a state of being and is defined as such in regards to the gender of which you are attracted. Procreation is not required and is irrelevant to sexual orientation. In fact, one does not have to be orientated or attracted towards an individual with which they procreate. If the equipment works, procreation can occur. This, as I said, is pretty basic stuff. I am surprised that it confuses you. I am glad that I could clear this up and correct your misperceptions.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanbyChoic View Post
    False… Normality is established by the design of the species.
    False. Statistical normalcy is defined by statistical analysis. With this, homosexuality, left-handedness, and genius are things that are not normal. In other instances, normal is a subjective description, and therefore meaningless.

    To wit: the design of the mammal is one wherein the individual is encouraged to procreate through a series of hormonal stimulations, which induce the desire for coitus. Coitus encourages conception, which provides for the highest potential that the species will survive, due to the volume of such instances dictated by the design.

    Such requires the male to fertilize the eggs born by the female… therein establishing the biological norm.
    Procreation is irrelevant to sexual orientation.

    Perhaps you're conflating the biological imperative with cultural normality… No one that I am aware of is arguing that cultural normality rests in the illusion common to individual perceptions. To the contrary, the issue, is that the cultural normalization of sexual abnormality, sets aside the certainty that such abnormalities are an indicator of a larger problem relevant to the collective and it's environment. Normalizing such can only lead to the rejection of any sense of such, thus promoting the probability that such would be missed or otherwise dismissed, leading to cultural catastrophe.

    In short, it's just a very bad idea.
    Since procreation is irrelevant to sexual orientation, nothing above has any relevancy.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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