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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No it isn't as evidenced by the fact that most men who molest young boys are heterosexual. Pedophilia has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation.
    First, I want you to understand this in the context that I'm very pro-SSM and gay rights, but this is a matter of simple definitions. Second, I never said it had anything to do with sexual orientation. I'm saying if he only has sexual relations with males, regardless of age, he is homosexual. If a pedophile likes boys, he's at a minimum a bisexual.

    If I only like blonde females, I'm not only a lover of blondes, I'm also a heterosexual.

    Here's a chart I made up for you. Let's use "John" as an example. These are his titles based on the x'd preferences.

    John Males Females Children
    Heterosexual x
    Homosexual x
    Bisexual x x
    Heterosexual Pedophile x x
    Homosexual Pedophile x x
    Bisexual Pedophile x x x
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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    A pedophile is a pedophile, is a scumbag of the worst sort. His sexual orientation is immaterial.
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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    What do you think?
    Neither, if someone only molests little boys he's probably an officer in the US navy.
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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    First, I want you to understand this in the context that I'm very pro-SSM and gay rights, but this is a matter of simple definitions. Second, I never said it had anything to do with sexual orientation. I'm saying if he only has sexual relations with males, regardless of age, he is homosexual. If a pedophile likes boys, he's at a minimum a bisexual.

    If I only like blonde females, I'm not only a lover of blondes, I'm also a heterosexual.

    Here's a chart I made up for you. Let's use "John" as an example. These are his titles based on the x'd preferences.

    John Males Females Children
    Heterosexual x
    Homosexual x
    Bisexual x x
    Heterosexual Pedophile x x
    Homosexual Pedophile x x
    Bisexual Pedophile x x x
    The problem, as I've previously explained, is your emphasis on the sex of the child. The sex does not really matter, all that matters is the fact it is a prepubescent child.

    Consider. When you were a child (you indicate you are male in your profile), who did you prefer to hang out with; other boys your age or other girls? If you chose to hang out with other boys mostly, did that make you homosexual? If you chose to hang out with girls mostly did that make you heterosexual? Funny thing, each sort of behavior pattern I just mentioned did just the opposite when adults saw it...hanging with boys indicated you were heterosexual, while hanging with girls brought up the fear you might be homosexual.

    Pre-teen children often display signs of mutual affection that have nothing whatsoever to do with sexuality. They hug, kiss, cuddle, hold hands with each other all the time regardless of their sex. They even touch each other out of mere curiousity.

    The current idea seems to be that a pedophile with a particular preference for boys, or for girls, is just acting out his earlier preferences for hanging out with boys or girls when he was a child. However, now that he is an adult, he can reinforce his childhood preference with self-gratification. He is certainly not gratifying the child he is with who is simply confused, scared, and merely following the instructions of the adult.

    It is overly simplistic to try to use that chart you provided to categorize this behavior pattern by adult sexual orientation.
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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    The problem, as I've previously explained, is your emphasis on the sex of the child. The sex does not really matter, all that matters is the fact it is a prepubescent child.

    Consider. When you were a child (you indicate you are male in your profile), who did you prefer to hang out with; other boys your age or other girls? If you chose to hang out with other boys mostly, did that make you homosexual? If you chose to hang out with girls mostly did that make you heterosexual? Funny thing, each sort of behavior pattern I just mentioned did just the opposite when adults saw it...hanging with boys indicated you were heterosexual, while hanging with girls brought up the fear you might be homosexual.

    Pre-teen children often display signs of mutual affection that have nothing whatsoever to do with sexuality. They hug, kiss, cuddle, hold hands with each other all the time regardless of their sex. They even touch each other out of mere curiousity.

    The current idea seems to be that a pedophile with a particular preference for boys, or for girls, is just acting out his earlier preferences for hanging out with boys or girls when he was a child. However, now that he is an adult, he can reinforce his childhood preference with self-gratification. He is certainly not gratifying the child he is with who is simply confused, scared, and merely following the instructions of the adult.

    It is overly simplistic to try to use that chart you provided to categorize this behavior pattern by adult sexual orientation.
    We're talking about sexual relations, not hang outs, so that example doesn't make any sense at all. Hanging out with someone isn't molestation.

    It's pretty black and white. Sexual orientation and pedophilia are not in any way correlated, but you can be more than one adjective at a time.

    Where is this imaginary separation occuring where a pedophile only having sexual interest in boys is not also homosexuality? What if a pedophile has a sexual relationship with a 17 year old male? It's not gay, not until one day later when he turns 18? Then it's super gay?
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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    The only people who think Herek is a radical lefty are radical righties.
    Anyone who advocates that the U.S. military should be used for social engineering experimentation is 99.9% likely to be a "radical lefty."

    Dr. Merek is a radical leftist activist and also a hetrophobe who labels anyone who doesn't condone same sex sodomy as being prejudice.
    I'm willing to bet that it was Dr. Merek who also wanted to make bestiality legal in the military and I'm sure Merek will label anyone who doesn't except bestiality as being normal of being prejudice.

    Senate Approves Bill that Legalizes Sodomy and Bestiality in U.S. Military

    >" On Nov. 15, the Senate Armed Services Committee had unanimously approved S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act, which includes a provision to repeal Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

    Article 125 of the UCMJ makes it illegal to engage in both sodomy with humans and sex with animals...

    “It’s all about using the military to advance this administration’s radical social agenda,” Perkins told CNSNews.com. “Not only did they overturn Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, but they had another problem, and that is, under military law sodomy is illegal, just as adultery is illegal, so they had to remove that prohibition against sodomy.”

    Perkins said removing the bestiality provision may have been intentional--or just “collateral damage”

    “Well, whether it was inadvertent or not, they have also taken out the provision against bestiality,” he said. “So now, under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), there’s nothing there to prosecute bestiality."..."<
    Senate Approves Bill that Legalizes Sodomy and Bestiality in U.S. Military | CNS News

    Side note: You may have remembered that the Obama White House were against keeping bestiality illegal in the military. But once it became public Obama and those he surrounds himself with sure became silent on the issue, probably hoping that Dr. Merek will be able to indoctrinate those who oppose sodomizing animals by telling them if you don't condone bestiality your sexually prejudice.

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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    We're talking about sexual relations, not hang outs, so that example doesn't make any sense at all. Hanging out with someone isn't molestation.

    It's pretty black and white. Sexual orientation and pedophilia are not in any way correlated, but you can be more than one adjective at a time.

    Where is this imaginary separation occuring where a pedophile only having sexual interest in boys NOT also homosexuality? What if a pedophile has a sexual relationship with a 17 year old male? It's not gay, not until one day later when he turns 18? Then it's super gay?
    But it does apply. You are misusing the term "pedophile." Please look up the definiton. It applies to persons who perform sex acts on a regular basis (i.e. having engaged in it more than once) with a child 13 years old and younger.

    Your inclusion of "adult" juveniles is actually "Ephebophilia," which is not considered a mental disorder, and is actually pretty normal form of attraction for most adults. Many adult men and women find male or female teenagers sexually attractive. They are also fully sexually functional, an important difference in comparison to a pedophile.

    Engaging in consentual sex with a 17 year-old male or female is perfectly legal in 39 states (including New York and Illinois) and the District of Columbia. It is only illegal in 11 States. Engaging in consentual sex with a 16 year-old male or female is legal in 31 states and D.C. In fact the last time I checked, having consentual sex with someone 16 or older is legal in 90% of the nations around the world, including almost all European nations. (I think only 3 or four require participants to be 18). The typical legal limitations involve family relationships or adults in positions of authority over the juvenile, like a coach or a teacher. Otherwise, it's perfectly legal.

    A man having a sexual interest in a 17 year-old boy could be either gay or bi-sexual. If the boy agreed to the liason they would engage in "gay sex." If not, it would be simple rape.

    A man performing sex acts on a child 13 or under is simply using it as a tool to get off on. His preference was developed as a pre-teen himself, probably based on who he enjoyed hanging out with when he was under 13. Big difference.
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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    But it does apply. You are misusing the term "pedophile." Please look up the definiton. It applies to persons who perform sex acts on a regular basis (i.e. having engaged in it more than once) with a child 13 years old and younger.

    Your inclusion of "adult" juveniles is actually "Ephebophilia," which is not considered a mental disorder, and is actually pretty normal form of attraction for most adults. Many adult men and women find male or female teenagers sexually attractive. They are also fully sexually functional, an important difference in comparison to a pedophile.

    Engaging in consentual sex with a 17 year-old male or female is perfectly legal in 39 states (including New York and Illinois) and the District of Columbia. It is only illegal in 11 States. Engaging in consentual sex with a 16 year-old male or female is legal in 31 states and D.C. In fact the last time I checked, having consentual sex with someone 16 or older is legal in 90% of the nations around the world, including almost all European nations. (I think only 3 or four require participants to be 18). The typical legal limitations involve family relationships or adults in positions of authority over the juvenile, like a coach or a teacher. Otherwise, it's perfectly legal.

    A man having a sexual interest in a 17 year-old boy could be either gay or bi-sexual. If the boy agreed to the liason they would engage in "gay sex." If not, it would be simple rape.

    A man performing sex acts on a child 13 or under is simply using it as a tool to get off on. His preference was developed as a pre-teen himself, probably based on who he enjoyed hanging out with when he was under 13. Big difference.
    LOL, so if you're molesting a boy, it's not gay until his 13th birthday, then you're gay as hell!

    Bahahahahaha.
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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

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    >" Gay activists have strenuously argued that there is no connection between homosexuality and the sexual abuse of children. They point out that the majority of child molestation cases are by heterosexuals. But they neglect a pivotal fact: Homosexuals comprise only a small percentage of the population, yet account for an extraordinarily high percentage of offenses against children.

    A recent study in Demography estimated the number of exclusive male homosexuals in the general population at 2.5 percent, and the number of exclusive lesbians at 1.4 percent. The study took into account three large data sets, including the all-encompassing U.S. Census.

    Now consider a report from the Journal of Sex Research which noted that homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses, even though they are outnumbered by heterosexuals 20 to one. Less than four percent of the population commits one-third of the offenses against children!

    In The Gay Report, homosexual researchers report data showing that better than 7 out of 10 homosexuals surveyed had at some time had sex with boys 16 to 19.

    Or consider a study in Archives of Sexual Behavior, which found that of 229 convicted child molesters surveyed, “85 percent of offenders against males described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.”

    The evidence is clear. Homosexuals have an overwhelming propensity towards child molestation. This is not to say that all homosexuals act out with pedophile tendencies. But the percentage of those who do is so disproportionately high it would be irresponsible and costly to ignore. Just ask the Roman Catholic Church.

    At the same time, the liberal media has worked overtime to disconnect pedophelia and homosexuality...<
    Penn State, Syracuse University, Pedophelia, Homosexuality and Child Abuse… | Conservative Critic's Blog

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    re: If someone only molest young boys is he gay, a pedohile or both. [W:417]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    LOL, so if you're molesting a boy, it's not gay until his 13th birthday, then you're gay as hell!

    Bahahahahaha.
    Just so you know, straight people molest those of the same sex all the time. Prison is one place it happens frequently. Being gay is about who you are attracted to primarily.
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