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Thread: What is most responsible for Christianity's failure in the West?

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    Re: What is most responsible for Christianity's failure in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    I asked a question.

    If the Christian God is not the Jewish God what happened to the Jewish God? Did it never exist or are there multiple Gods?
    No, the jewish god exists in the old testament. I already answered you.

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    Re: What is most responsible for Christianity's failure in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    No, the jewish god exists in the old testament. I already answered you.
    The old testament is just a book. So you say the Jewish God isn't real.

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    Re: What is most responsible for Christianity's failure in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing View Post
    What? This whole issue was raised when I said Christians believe in the God who unleashed the plagues on Egypt. You claimed was I was wrong and it was a "different God". Now you say you never brought up the notion of believing?

    This is unbelievable.......

    And again, if you don't believe in the God of the Old Testament, that means you don't believe in the story of creation, or the prophecies of Christ, among many other important fundamental Christian beliefs.
    Yep, it was the god of judaism. The god of christianity doesn't exist until the new testament.

    I never mentioned anything about belief in the god of the old testament. I only stated that the god of the old testament is not the same with the god of the new testament. So the god of the new testament is God the father, Jesus and the Holy spirit. The god of the old testament is just God and the holy spirit.

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    Re: What is most responsible for Christianity's failure in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    The old testament is just a book. So you say the Jewish God isn't real.
    No I'm not. Look at the post I am making and don't put words in my mouth. Or rather, words in my comment.
    I am simply explaining why you cannot attribute the events of the New testament to the god of the OT, and why you can't attribute the events of the OT to the god of the NT. Because they aren't the same.

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    Re: What is most responsible for Christianity's failure in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    No I'm not. Look at the post I am making and don't put words in my mouth. Or rather, words in my comment.
    I am simply explaining why you cannot attribute the events of the New testament to the god of the OT, and why you can't attribute the events of the OT to the god of the NT. Because they aren't the same.
    So there are multiple Gods then?

    The Christian God and the Jewish God both claim to be the only God they both can't be correct. One is a false God. Which one us false?

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    Re: What is most responsible for Christianity's failure in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    So there are multiple Gods then?

    The Christian God and the Jewish God both claim to be the only God they both can't be correct. One is a false God. Which one us false?
    Each is true for its own religion. I believe mine is the right one.
    You believe yours is the right one.
    To each his own.

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    Re: What is most responsible for Christianity's failure in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Each is true for its own religion. I believe mine is the right one.
    You believe yours is the right one.
    To each his own.
    So God is like picking your favorite movie. Its all made up. It can make you feel good, but makes no real difference in life.

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    Re: What is most responsible for Christianity's failure in the West?

    Look MLK. He was a real christian he was actually christ like.
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    Is there a reason you shouldnt be free to?
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    Obamacare wants to put a chip inside people. There is a video of it on youtube.

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    Re: What is most responsible for Christianity's failure in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    So God is like picking your favorite movie. Its all made up. It can make you feel good, but makes no real difference in life.
    I don't know about that.
    But believing in a deity is an important thing to those who find it important. It's not a mandated thing. It's not universal. And it's not a reason to make a big deal out of it in real life when there is a lot of other things to worry about. Real issues which we can make a positive, definitive impact in.
    This doesn't mean that religion isn't important, it is far better to have a bit faith than to be an atheist. it just means that since you can't make a definitive statement on the matter of religion, better find something else to do with your life.

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    Re: What is most responsible for Christianity's failure in the West?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    I don't know about that.
    But believing in a deity is an important thing to those who find it important. It's not a mandated thing. It's not universal. And it's not a reason to make a big deal out of it in real life when there is a lot of other things to worry about. Real issues which we can make a positive, definitive impact in.
    This doesn't mean that religion isn't important, it is far better to have a bit faith than to be an atheist. it just means that since you can't make a definitive statement on the matter of religion, better find something else to do with your life.
    The problems come when people want their view of the God myth forced onto others.

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