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    re: Rasmussen Poll Says Blacks Are More Racist Than Whites [W:358]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Rasmussen’s Bizarre Poll About Racism | TPMDC

    The right-leaning polling firm Rasmussen Reports dove into America’s views of race on Wednesday with a bizarre survey that concluded most of the nation thinks blacks are more likely to be racist than whites.

    Going deeper into the poll’s crosstabs shows that 49 percent of Republicans believe “most black Americans (are) racist,” roughly the same percentage of Democrats (47 percent) who said the opposite. A third of Republicans said most black Americans are not racist, while only 11 percent of the GOP said that most white people are racist. Fifty-eight percent of respondents identified as “very conservative” said most blacks are racist, while a plurality of 44 percent “somewhat conservative” respondents said the same.

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    A study conducted by Fordham University rated Rasmussen as one of the least accurate pollsters of the 2012 election cycle.

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    Meh. I agree but it is what it is.


    History happens. Can't get too upset about racism. Racism is a new concept generally. Tribalism is all racism really is and tribalism is a far more tenured ideology than liberalism. I don't blame anybody for being tribal and that means racist. It is what it is.


    If Euros had been slaved to Africa by African kings I wouldn't blame those Euros descendents for being racist and or tribalist. How could you really? It's to be expected in such a situation. I don't think you can really blame people though on any side. It was always going to be that way with what happened.

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    re: Rasmussen Poll Says Blacks Are More Racist Than Whites [W:358]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And yet, our history does hold some of this. I would be dishonest to deny it. And we still have people and places that deny employment, housing, and service due to race. This isn't all white people, to be sure, but it really doesn't happen the other way around.
    You mean we have places where people assume that their employment, housing or service was denied due to race.......

    And it doesn't happen the other way around? Apparently you've never tried to be a white guy getting a hair cut in the ghetto.
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    re: Rasmussen Poll Says Blacks Are More Racist Than Whites [W:358]

    I don't doubt the poll but it's missing the point ...

    Think back to slavery, you have a racist institution, do you think black slaves will have racial anger? Of coarse, many might hate white people, many white people however, who don't suffer from racial policy might not have a problem with black people, why hate black people? They arn't a threat, they don't oppress you and so on.

    Who are the victims of racism? Well the blacks, why because the institution racially favors whites.

    This is why it's important to look at the material conditions behind feelings and so on.

    If I'm a white buisiness owner and I decide to only hire whites because I don't trust blacks, yet I don't HATE black people, infact I may have black friends. Yet a black person who doesn't have a job because of people like me goes on to HATE white people.
    Who is the victim of racism there?

    I think the mistake of making individual racism the most important aspect of racism is also made by liberals.

    I doubt ANY black person nowerdays really cares about some tiny KKK backwoods group of poor whire rural people having BBQs talking about how they hate black people, it doesn't effect their lives, what does affect their lives are things like workplace discrimination.

    It's a lot deeper than just "are individual blacks racist or individual whites." It's institutions and power dynamics.

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    re: Rasmussen Poll Says Blacks Are More Racist Than Whites [W:358]

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    I don't doubt the poll but it's missing the point ...

    Think back to slavery, you have a racist institution, do you think black slaves will have racial anger? Of coarse, many might hate white people, many white people however, who don't suffer from racial policy might not have a problem with black people, why hate black people? They arn't a threat, they don't oppress you and so on.
    You seen anybody who lived through slavery still alive today?

    Hmm? Eh?? No???

    Didn't think so.

    No black person today has the right to be angry with a white person due to slavery. So lets go ahead and drop that ignorant ass issue.


    Who are the victims of racism? Well the blacks, why because the institution racially favors whites.
    I'd like to see you support that.

    My support that they don't racially favor whites is Affirmative Action and financial aid programs for black business owners.




    If I'm a white buisiness owner and I decide to only hire whites because I don't trust blacks, yet I don't HATE black people, infact I may have black friends. Yet a black person who doesn't have a job because of people like me goes on to HATE white people.
    Who is the victim of racism there?
    If I'm a black business owner and I decide to only hire blacks because I don't trust whites, yet I don't HATE white people, in fact I may have white friends. Yet a white person who doesn't have a job because of people like me goes on to HATE black people.


    I doubt ANY black person nowerdays really cares about some tiny KKK backwoods group of poor whire rural people having BBQs talking about how they hate black people, it doesn't effect their lives, what does affect their lives are things like workplace discrimination.
    Which I have seen no proof of. Only statistics with a conclusion drawn from them but absolutely no explanation to why the conclusion of racism was drawn.

    It's a lot deeper than just "are individual blacks racist or individual whites." It's institutions and power dynamics.
    Yes. Institutions and power dynamics.. Black President, Affirmative Action, Special programs to assist with black business owners, etc, etc, etc.

    Im not saying the "institution" is set up against the white man, but the only disadvantage I see to black folks is the same one white folks have, the level of poverty of wealth they were born into, and their individual level of motivation to get out of that situation.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    re: Rasmussen Poll Says Blacks Are More Racist Than Whites [W:358]

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    What I find funny is all these people talking about white institutional influence or power, when the US government employs 17.5% blacks verses the 13.1% they represent in the population. Hispanics represent 16.9% of the population but only get 7.1% of federal jobs. Whites represent 77.9% of the population and only get 67% of federal jobs. Boy that's a lot of influence by white people. The numbers are similar for state and local governments. If there was going to be influence you would think it would be for government jobs. Guess the influence goes only so far.
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    re: Rasmussen Poll Says Blacks Are More Racist Than Whites [W:358]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The fact is that any animosity black people feel towards white people is not based in racism, but in frustration with the way that a white dominated society has treated them.
    I'm not sure such is a valid assumption

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    re: Rasmussen Poll Says Blacks Are More Racist Than Whites [W:358]

    Individuals are racist.

    There is no racial inclination to be more racist. That is racism.

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    re: Rasmussen Poll Says Blacks Are More Racist Than Whites [W:358]

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    I think the mistake of making individual racism the most important aspect of racism is also made by liberals.

    I doubt ANY black person nowerdays really cares about some tiny KKK backwoods group of poor whire rural people having BBQs talking about how they hate black people, it doesn't effect their lives, what does affect their lives are things like workplace discrimination.

    It's a lot deeper than just "are individual blacks racist or individual whites." It's institutions and power dynamics.
    This is an important point. Racism is often talked about now almost exclusively as a matter of an individual problem. It's also talked about rather simplistically as something that is only evident when people utter certain racial slurs or belong to groups like the KKK. The most significant form of racism is the kind that dominates institutions - the kind that affects people on a large, society-wide scale. No such type of racism exists against white people. Racism against white Americans - if it exists - would be based on an individual, rather than structural, level.

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    re: Rasmussen Poll Says Blacks Are More Racist Than Whites [W:358]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    How exactly do you untangle that bolded from the oppression and violence visited on blacks by whites in this country, starting four hundred years ago and continuing to today? If there were groups of blacks attacking Asians, I'd say you had a point. But there aren't. "No reason other than they are white" includes all of the benefits that whites have obtained by ordering society for our benefit and trampling on blacks to get there. If you think that just because you never owned any slaves that you exist in a racial vacuum, then you're very very deep in denial. Until being born black doesn't vastly increase the chance to spend one's life in poverty, to be locked up in prison for crimes that whites commit and aren't imprisoned for, or to die younger, then there is no position of race neutrality in this country.
    Bold: And yet that is why many minorities have the ability to go to colleges and universities just for being black? Get real. The only ones that can get themselves out of poverty are those that educate themselves and work hard. And that applies to everyone no matter the race. If blacks want to get out of poverty then they just have to work hard. Don't believe me? Take a look at Obama. He sure as hell is not living in poverty despite having been born into it.

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    re: Rasmussen Poll Says Blacks Are More Racist Than Whites [W:358]

    Enough with the ridiculous race polls...please.

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