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    Re: What will the status of Gay marriage be in the USA in 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Because people want to be protected in those relationships and "spouse" is a legally recognized family member. Society benefits from marriages because of stability of relationships, which has been shown to provide many benefits to society, and having an adult who has agreed (via marriage license) to take on a certain amount of responsibility, including financial responsibility for this other adult should they not be able to. Plus, for those couples, same sex or opposite sex, that do want to raise children, marriage is the most stable and beneficial relationship to raise children in, no matter who the biological parents of those children are.
    I'll agree that society benefits from stability of relationships. Given that agreement, why do you think we have made the exit from marriage so easy?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: What will the status of Gay marriage be in the USA in 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No it wasn't. It was about a black person wanting to be married to a white person and that white person also wanting to be married to that black person and people in society feeling that such relationships were "immoral" and wrong and harmed children.

    And those who wish to be in a same sex relationship have no control over their sex/gender, yet they are being discriminated against.
    No, the law was established long before that case. The problem existed LOOOOONG before that case. The bottom line is, that people with the wrong skin tone were denied this right based on something ALL of them had ZERO control over. Homosexuals can't make that same argument.

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    Re: What will the status of Gay marriage be in the USA in 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    No, he connected the two because he actually used them both in his example. There is zero valid connection, and I'm surprised, yet again, that a so-called Conservative is defending gay marriage.
    No he said "interracial marriage" not being black. People are not born into interracial marriages/relationships, just as they are not born into same race relationships, or opposite sex relationships or same sex relationships.

    There is a connection having a right to choose who a person has a relationship with.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: What will the status of Gay marriage be in the USA in 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No he said "interracial marriage" not being black. People are not born into interracial marriages/relationships, just as they are not born into same race relationships, or opposite sex relationships or same sex relationships.

    There is a connection having a right to choose who a person has a relationship with.
    No, he used blacks as an example to illustrate how he thinks gay marriage will be in 2050.

    Honestly, are you even paying attention to this debate, or are you so drunk with rage that you can't think straight?

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    Re: What will the status of Gay marriage be in the USA in 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    No, the law was established long before that case. The problem existed LOOOOONG before that case. The bottom line is, that people with the wrong skin tone were denied this right based on something ALL of them had ZERO control over. Homosexuals can't make that same argument.
    And many of the laws were based on a belief that interracial relationships were immoral.

    Actually whites were the ones being denied the most rights when it came to interracial marriage. Because in some states interracial marriage bans actually stated that whites could not marry outside their race, but other races were not given such restrictions. It all depended on the actual law.

    But it all comes down to the fact that the laws were still struck down on the basis that people should be allowed to choose their own spouse, without interference from the government, unless the state is able to show a legitimate state interest is furthered by the restriction. The state cannot show a legitimate state interest is furthered in a sex/gender restriction on marriage because marriage is gender neutral in how it functions.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: What will the status of Gay marriage be in the USA in 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'll agree that society benefits from stability of relationships. Given that agreement, why do you think we have made the exit from marriage so easy?
    Because people get to also choose when they want to leave a marriage/relationship that no longer works for them. Humans are human and make mistakes. I have no issue with pushing for a higher age to actually enter into marriage and/or marriage counseling before being allowed a divorce, particularly if the couple has children. But I don't think that any couple when they actually decide they want a divorce should be prevented permanently from getting a divorce.
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    Re: What will the status of Gay marriage be in the USA in 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Because people get to also choose when they want to leave a marriage/relationship that no longer works for them. Humans are human and make mistakes. I have no issue with pushing for a higher age to actually enter into marriage and/or marriage counseling before being allowed a divorce, particularly if the couple has children. But I don't think that any couple when they actually decide they want a divorce should be prevented permanently from getting a divorce.
    Maybe we should also include premarital counseling before a State would issue a license, and insist on counseling before a divorce being granted unless some form of abuse could be proven?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: What will the status of Gay marriage be in the USA in 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    No, he used blacks as an example to illustrate how he thinks gay marriage will be in 2050.

    Honestly, are you even paying attention to this debate, or are you so drunk with rage that you can't think straight?
    This is what Aderleth posted:

    The poll's broken, but my answer is that it'll be universally available and generally uncontroversial, much like interracial marriage is now.
    And that is what you quoted him as posting and to which I first responded.

    That specifically mentions "interracial marriage", not "blacks". It doesn't mention race. It mentions a relationship where race is a factor. Just as in same sex relationships, sex/gender is a factor.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: What will the status of Gay marriage be in the USA in 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Maybe we should also include premarital counseling before a State would issue a license, and insist on counseling before a divorce being granted unless some form of abuse could be proven?
    I don't agree. This would be pushing it. Some people are perfectly capable of working things through/discussing problems on their own without outside help.

    I would agree to a waiting period for a marriage license though. This way we wouldn't have so many "quicky Vegas weddings".

    And no couple should have to prove abuse just to get a divorce, especially if there are no children involved.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: What will the status of Gay marriage be in the USA in 2050

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I FIGURE

    Obviously My poll attempt was a miserable failure
    I added a poll for you.
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