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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    You're kidding, right?
    Amazingly no.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why yes, I am.
    Get over yourself.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    This is a straightforward issue of money. Which option costs taxpayers less. Ideology shouldn't even enter into the discussion.

    Like it or not, unwanted teen pregnancies cost taxpayers money. Unless you're in favor of letting babies starve, someone has to pay to feed and support those children. When the parent is unable to support the child financially (as is often the case with teens), SOMEONE has to foot the bill. Often that means taxpayers. Like it or not, them's the brakes. Deal with it.

    Now, that being the case, providing teens with condoms will cost the taxpayers money. On the other hand, there is reason to believe that providing those condoms will reduce the number of unwanted teen pregnancies and, therefore, the amount of money taxpayers have to fork over to support babies that don't have financially-able parents. It's a simple question of which option costs the taxpayers less overall.

    I've never seen any data on that, probably there are some studies out there. If I had to guess, I would guess the free condoms are cheaper overall. If that's the case, then anybody who votes against free condoms is, effectively, voting to trade in $1 and get back $0.75 in return. Keep that in mind.
    Many here are simply incapable of discerning the fact that eliminating condom distribution is walking over long dollars to pick up short dimes.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    And on that note;

    Trojan Premium Lubricant Condoms - Walmart.com

    That's 75 cents (plus tax) per name brand condom.


    Or if the teen in question is REALLY active (or wants to split the cost with his/her friends):

    Get LifeStyles Ultra Sensitive Condoms at Walmart.com. Save money. Live better.

    That's about 25 cents (plus tax) per condom.


    Come on people - this argument is pretty silly (imo).


    (note: I am not knocking the person who started the thread though - all questions are good questions, imo).
    Back before I was married I used that brand, the Lifestyles Ultra Sensitive condoms. For condoms they're pretty stellar, and anyone who says they can't afford it is lying. You'll find enough change on the ground after a few minutes of looking around to buy one.
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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Let me teach you some math and logic by example:

    0.02 * 1000 > 0.50 * 20 > 0.02 * 100

    The point of this lesson is that for any two probabilities strictly between 0 and 1, the numbers of respective trials are still free variables. The example demonstrates that they can be chosen such that either results in a greater expected value of successes.

    Applied to the issue at hand, if the number of kids screwing greatly increases because they have an increase in security then the number of teen pregnancies can still rise.
    "Condom Availability Programs Do Not Promote Sexual Activity.

    * A study of New York City's school condom availability program found a significant increase in condom use among sexually active students but no increase in sexual activity.1
    * A World Health Organization review of studies on sexuality education found that access to counseling and contraceptive services did not encourage earlier or increased sexual activity.3
    * In Europe and Canada where comprehensive sexuality education and convenient, confidential access to condoms are more common, the rates of adolescent sexual intercourse are no higher than in the United States.4"

    More stats, footnotes and a link in post #187

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why allow your kids to ruin their own lives when you could just raise them right in the first place? If your kids are ignoring you, maybe it's not them that's doing something wrong.
    Here's some late breaking news: even good kids have sex. Almost everybody who can, does. Don't you?

    May I suggest people look at the statistics before staking out positions on such matters. I see a lot of wrong assumptions on this thread. Thee are life and death issues that should not be determined by fear, religion/superstition and wrong assumptions.

    "Age at First Intercourse

    * By their late teenage years, at least 3/4 of all men and women have had intercourse, and more than 2/3 of all sexually experienced teens have had 2 or more partners (AGI, 2002).

    * A 2007 evaluation of Abstinence (only) Sex Education programs by Mathmatica Policy Research did not find that they had any effects on rates of abstinence among youth, nor on the average age of first intecourse. Government funded abstinence based programs, compared to previous sex education programs, show little significant difference in rates of teen sex. http://www.mathematica-mpr.com/publi...abstinence.pdf

    Percent of population having had first intercourse, by age
    Males
    25% by age 15
    37% by age 16
    46% by age 17
    62% by age 18
    69% by age 19
    77% by age 19
    85% by age 20-21
    89% by age 22-24

    Females
    26% by age 15
    40% by age 16
    49% by age 17
    70% by age 18
    81% by age 20-21
    92% by age 22-24
    (Mosher, Chandra, & Jones, 2005)

    Average age of first intercourse, by gender
    Males 16.9

    Females 17.4

    (AGI, 2002).

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You just blew your own argument out of the water. Your parents steered you in the right direction, you restrained yourself. My parents did the same thing and so did I. So who should we blame for kids that didn't get the same kind of direction? Not the kids...
    I'm telling you parents can do all the right things and kids not listen. It's common.
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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Let me make sure I've got this straight. You don't think expecting the parents to provide the condoms is realistic???
    It is not realistic, far too many parents are in denial or are oblivious about their kids lives.

    True story from a girl I went to High School with. She was from a "nice" normal, strict religious family, but living in the city she was a heroin user by the time she was 14. Moving to the suburbs (and perhaps through other measures I don't know about) got her to stop using heroin by age 15. She had a steady boyfriend for a year, was having sex, drinking and smoking pot, but wasn't out of control and got good grades, and didn't act up much (she went to an Ivy League college later). Her mother takes her to get a gynecology exam. In front of her mother* the doctor ask her is she was a virgin. Before the girl could say a thing her mother answered "Of course she is!"

    *outrageously clueless and irresponsible

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I guess my opinion is biased by the fact that I came from a teen mother and ended up where I am, without government handouts. Dr. Carson is another good example.
    Exceptional situations only prove what is possible, not what is most likely to happen.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sig View Post
    It only makes sense. If a parent knows, or even suspects their daughter of being sexually active, then they should get them a shot of Depo (or some other long-acting birth control) at a free clinic or even at school.
    And if the child refuses (for whatever reason)?

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