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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Then you have more people collecting benefits, which is very expensive. Much more expensive to pay to raise a child.

    Let's face it a 15 or 16-year-old mom doesn't have very many options.
    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....Chris, don't tell people that. That freaks em out.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Then you have more people collecting benefits, which is very expensive. Much more expensive to pay to raise a child.

    Let's face it a 15 or 16-year-old mom doesn't have very many options.
    I guess my opinion is biased by the fact that I came from a teen mother and ended up where I am, without government handouts. Dr. Carson is another good example.
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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I guess my opinion is biased by the fact that I came from a teen mother and ended up where I am, without government handouts. Dr. Carson is another good example.
    Some folks are special or lucky. Many others aren't. I think looking at the greater reality might help unbias some of your opinions....or not.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    I guess my opinion is biased by the fact that I came from a teen mother and ended up where I am, without government handouts. Dr. Carson is another good example.
    Times are always changing. I think that things are harder and more complicated now than they were a generation ago. They're aren't many jobs that would pay enough for a young single mom to provide for herself and her baby without help from the state. They would probably at the very least need food stamps and medical help.

    I don't mind if young moms use the welfare program, that is what it is for. However, I feel that some type of education or training program is a must for these girls so that they can eventually be independent.

    I have my own experiences as a teen mom, but I prefer not to get too personal online.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Times are always changing. I think that things are harder and more complicated now than they were a generation ago. They're aren't many jobs that would pay enough for a young single mom to provide for herself and her baby without help from the state. They would probably at the very least need food stamps and medical help.

    I don't mind if young moms use the welfare program, that is what it is for. However, I feel that some type of education or training program is a must for these girls so that they can eventually be independent.

    I have my own experiences as a teen mom, but I prefer not to get too personal online.
    Chris...you've raised one of the problems that pro-life can't seem to hurdle. If a baby is born...and the mom is a kid too. Chances are she'll require help...and if that help comes from the taxpayers...she's viewed by the PL'ers as a parasite. If she gets an abortion...she's viewed by the PL'ers as an irresponsible non-respecter of life.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Chris...you've raised one of the problems that pro-life can't seem to huddle. If a baby is born...and the mom is a kid too. Chances are she'll require help...and if that help comes from the taxpayers...she's viewed by the PL'ers as a parasite. If she gets an abortion...she's viewed by the PL'ers as an irresponsible non-respecter of life.
    Are you trying to get me into an abortion debate?

    Honestly, I would rather my tax money go to support the child than to pay to abort the child, or even to put the child up for adoption. I'm pro-life but try to be realistic and I could understand the decision of a teen mom to abort a child, so I'm not for banning it, but I'd like to see a lot less of it. Thinking about it still makes me cringe though.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Are you trying to get me into an abortion debate?

    Honestly, I would rather my tax money go to support the child than to pay to abort the child, or even to put the child up for adoption. I'm pro-life but try to be realistic and I could understand the decision of a teen mom to abort a child, so I'm not for banning it, but I'd like to see a lot less of it. Thinking about it still makes me cringe though.
    No dear....don't want to get ya into an abortion debate, but it is a genuine issue.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    We don't live in the world of "should". We live in the world of "do" or "do not". Often, among teenagers personal responsibility "does not" trump fun or pleasure. Cry about it all you want, that doesn't change reality.
    It should also be noted that many times people that are adults fun or pleasure trumps personal responsibility. The fact is some people are just stupid and plenty of people make mistakes. Does it really matter in the end? No, my responsibility is still not for them.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Maybe. But you can't change that.

    In the meantime we are facing real world problems that we need to address as best we can.
    Why does the government need to face these problems exactly?

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    This is a straightforward issue of money. Which option costs taxpayers less. Ideology shouldn't even enter into the discussion.

    Like it or not, unwanted teen pregnancies cost taxpayers money. Unless you're in favor of letting babies starve, someone has to pay to feed and support those children. When the parent is unable to support the child financially (as is often the case with teens), SOMEONE has to foot the bill. Often that means taxpayers. Like it or not, them's the brakes. Deal with it.
    We have stupid policies, so support this other stupid policy. Nice argument. Nope, not going to play ball with that. The more your stupid policies cost the sooner they die. Sorry, but that works in my favor.

    Furthermore, why in the hell would I be interested in even more social programs? What benefit is that to me? All it does is grow the government, increase their influence in peoples lives, create more dependence, and what do I get in return? A chance that it will lower cost of your other stupid programs?
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