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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ..and abortion, and child care, and food-stamps, and Title-19, and housing, and health care, and retirement....
    Yep.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It's kind of interesting how we create safety net and then spend our time trying to keep off of it. I can't recall a time when I created something and then spend my time trying to me sure no one used it.
    Do you really not see the difference between a single individual doing something and a collection of individuals comprising a society doing something akin to the herding of cats?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Don't hand them out, but have them available so they can get them without having to embarrass themselves.
    They should be embarassed, there used to be something called shame in this country where people didn't do things because they didn't want other people to think badly of them.

    We need to bring that back.
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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    They should be embarassed, there used to be something called shame in this country where people didn't do things because they didn't want other people to think badly of them.

    We need to bring that back.
    Nah there's definitely enough shame around. People still kill themselves over it.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    His common fatal flaw in discussions like this is he consistently fails to discern idealism with human nature... what should should do vs what people will actually do.

    I phrased my response carefully. What he says makes sense, as in it is what people should do. It utterly fails when tested, however.

    Can we go back to that ideal? Maybe. If we did it would be a long process, and in the mean time do we really want to have an explosion of unwanted kids on the taxpayer bill? THAT's reality. We can argue whether they should be on the taxpayer bill, but they are and it's not changing anytime soon. Is that what you want?

    well in his argument its very simple, its the same i use, and that is government is not here to supply you with material goods or services.. IE..healthcare

    people have this idea, when there is a problem they are supposed to turn to government to solve it, and that's not correct, government is here to secure rights, not serve your wants desires, of fix your problems.

    when people ask government do to things, government requires money to do that, why should tax payers pay for condoms when they are so easy to obtain ...by asking government to do, you have opened the door further to them into the life's of the people.

    where are no social duties for the federal government in the personal life's of the people.

    when faced with question about things i always ask myself two questions.

    who's property is it?

    and does government have the authority to act?

    in this case the property is my tax money people are wanting to spend..

    in the latter, the answer is no, government has no authority in this area.

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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is it a waste? It's a drop in the bucket compared to paying for unplanned kids.
    The taxpayer shouldn't be paying for them, the parents of the teenagers should, for failing to raise responsible children. Go garnish their wages to pay for the kid.
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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Socialists never have any money.
    That's why they're idiots, but I digress.
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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Do you want to stand on principle, or do you want tax money to pay for unplanned kids?

    Option C does not exist.
    It did before we added option B. Did the out of wedlock childbirth rate not increase after option B was added?
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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    Nah there's definitely enough shame around. People still kill themselves over it.
    As well they should sometimes.
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    Re: Should teenagers be given free condoms?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Do you really not see the difference between a single individual doing something and a collection of individuals comprising a society doing something akin to the herding of cats?
    Actually, that is not what is going on here. Society is a collection of people while government is the body that rules over it. When you use the governing body towards anything it is not the collection of people doing something, it is the ruling body doing it. You see, if we were working together voluntarily you wouldn't have had even the notion to make that post telling me about the collection of individuals as I would already be working with you towards the same goals.

    Regardless of that, there is very little you do in this world where you want less people to engage in it. Off the top of my head there is charity and then there is welfare and outside of that there is nothing that people do for other people that they want less people to take part in.
    Last edited by Henrin; 07-01-13 at 02:59 AM.

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