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    Re: Do Degreed women have a harder time finding a Husband?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
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    That said. The entire point is, the vast majority of degreed women will NEVER find Mr. 75-100k because they were NEVER going to. He didn't, doesn't exist on enough of a numerical level to be found. So what will, are degreed women making 50-70k a year doing? They're waiting for a 75-100k man that doesn't exist to pop up. Well. That's going to be a long wait, primarily because he isn't coming and wasn't. Equally important to this phenomena is the fact that these women cannot marry down.
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    I guess most women I know don't set out to find a guy who earns less than them.

    Some end up with guys who earn less, but that's not their reason for being with him.
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    Re: Do Degreed women have a harder time finding a Husband?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    If a question and phenomena leading to that question has to be asked, it is likely the case.


    All the polls said Bush would lose his second term. So much for those polls. Considering that was an easily measurable thing, I'd say social phenomena polls are even less accurate, especially considering half the editors/authors are likely single degreed women (lol).
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    Re: Do Degreed women have a harder time finding a Husband?

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    I guess you would have to look at the studies and what they are measuring. The ones I have seen are, as I said, from the nineties - and a lot of things have changed in the last 15 - 20 years. I understand there was international research looking at this - but if you consider that globally, women have a one in three chance of being in a relationship with an abusive partner, then high levels of depression and anxiety may well be quite common.

    often mental health issues are associated with a sense of powerlessness and not having control over your own life.
    I'm a businessman by nature. I tend to see the world through green-tinted glasses. Also it never arose in my brain like that, because I don't rely on someone else to make me happy. It's my vice to be 99% left-brained.

    Re women taking half of what you've got - I guess it also depends what laws you have. My daughter owned her house outright when she met her partner, but if they split up, he would legally be entitled to make a claim against her assets - here the law doesn't differentiate on the basis of sex, and as far as I know has not done for some time. I have known a few women who have lost assets because they dismissed the idea that an ex husband/boyfriend could legally be entitled to something they believed was theirs alone.

    Still, they are better off than what they would have been prior to some 19th century legislation (such as the married women's property act - or whatever your country/state's equivalent is) when on marriage, a woman's property/inheritance would pass into the control of her husband, to do with whatever he wished.
    Well yeah, back then women were essentially chattel. I imagine today would be better. And, yes, I imagine there are plenty of cases where the woman is financially "better off" than the newly-divorced husband and has to take a purse-hit to finalize it. However, I imagine that the percentage of situations where that's true is probably low. You hear all the time about high-profile marriages going kaput and the man getting taken to the cleaners. Situations where the ultra-rich woman getting robbed through divorce is low.

    Other than the fact that I don't see too many rich women "marrying down", I think the biggest reason is that wealthy women are more likely to enter a marriage with a pre-nup (which is a completely intelligent and logical move). Men don't do that as much - due to a mixture of the fact that many women will throw a fit and start guilting them with things like "you clearly don't trust me" and "I can take care of myself", and men lacking in testicular fortitude to stick to their guns.

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    Re: Do Degreed women have a harder time finding a Husband?

    Yes - I don't support alimony . . .the only time I recall a woman paying alimony was Madonna. It's not like the spouse in those high-dollar marriages are poor themselves. Alimony should only be a factor if being divorced would throw either one into poverty - and then, only if the receiver of alimony didn't spur on the divorce (like cheat)
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    Re: Do Degreed women have a harder time finding a Husband?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yes - I don't support alimony . . .the only time I recall a woman paying alimony was Madonna. It's not like the spouse in those high-dollar marriages are poor themselves. Alimony should only be a factor if being divorced would throw either one into poverty - and then, only if the receiver of alimony didn't spur on the divorce (like cheat)
    I'm guessing it was the new husband (wasn't sure if she was divorced from him), because I think Penn had more money than she did when they were together.

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    Re: Do Degreed women have a harder time finding a Husband?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'm a businessman by nature. I tend to see the world through green-tinted glasses. Also it never arose in my brain like that, because I don't rely on someone else to make me happy. It's my vice to be 99% left-brained.



    Well yeah, back then women were essentially chattel. I imagine today would be better. And, yes, I imagine there are plenty of cases where the woman is financially "better off" than the newly-divorced husband and has to take a purse-hit to finalize it. However, I imagine that the percentage of situations where that's true is probably low. You hear all the time about high-profile marriages going kaput and the man getting taken to the cleaners. Situations where the ultra-rich woman getting robbed through divorce is low.
    not sure what you are saying here. many women earn as much as men and/or are motivated op make sensible, long term economic decisions.

    Other than the fact that I don't see too many rich women "marrying down", I think the biggest reason is that wealthy women are more likely to enter a marriage with a pre-nup (which is a completely intelligent and logical move). Men don't do that as much - due to a mixture of the fact that many women will throw a fit and start guilting them with things like "you clearly don't trust me" and "I can take care of myself", and men lacking in testicular fortitude to stick to their guns.
    I think it is important to recognize that the situation is changing, and both men and women can't rely on outdated stereotypes.
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    Re: Do Degreed women have a harder time finding a Husband?

    yes ,because many of them are more self confident
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    Re: Do Degreed women have a harder time finding a Husband?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yes - I don't support alimony . . .the only time I recall a woman paying alimony was Madonna. It's not like the spouse in those high-dollar marriages are poor themselves. Alimony should only be a factor if being divorced would throw either one into poverty - and then, only if the receiver of alimony didn't spur on the divorce (like cheat)
    Many women are now having to pay alimony to their husbands.

    Liza Mundy: In De-Gendering of Divorce, Women Pay Ex-Husbands Alimony | TIME.com

    Now, I agree with ending lifetime alimony and limiting alimony altogether. And I don't think any person who cheats on their spouse should get alimony without mitigating circumstances (such as he/she cheated also, or they had an agreed upon open relationship). It should definitely take into account all evidenced information of both parties and be reasonable.

    The most prominent (although fictitious) example that I can't help but get out of my head in this discussion is Doofensmirtz's wife on Phineas and Ferb. He basically tries to make devices that would allow him to rule the world living solely off his wife's alimony payments (which also pay for his apartment). (Yes, I know it's a cartoon, but that concept is interesting to me.)
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    Re: Do Degreed women have a harder time finding a Husband?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Many women are now having to pay alimony to their husbands.

    Liza Mundy: In De-Gendering of Divorce, Women Pay Ex-Husbands Alimony | TIME.com

    Now, I agree with ending lifetime alimony and limiting alimony altogether. And I don't think any person who cheats on their spouse should get alimony without mitigating circumstances (such as he/she cheated also, or they had an agreed upon open relationship). It should definitely take into account all evidenced information of both parties and be reasonable.

    The most prominent (although fictitious) example that I can't help but get out of my head in this discussion is Doofensmirtz's wife on Phineas and Ferb. He basically tries to make devices that would allow him to rule the world living solely off his wife's alimony payments (which also pay for his apartment). (Yes, I know it's a cartoon, but that concept is interesting to me.)
    The fact that there's an article on the subject means that this is a highly rare occurrence. Remember, dog bites man is not news. Man bites dog is.

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    Re: Do Degreed women have a harder time finding a Husband?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    The fact that there's an article on the subject means that this is a highly rare occurrence. Remember, dog bites man is not news. Man bites dog is.
    Not a frequent situation, but it is not as "highly rare" as one might imagine. It usually happens when the wife earns a substantial amount more money than the husband though or as a backdoor way for the wife to buy out the husband's interest in the property she is keeping over time when she doesn't have the cash to do it all at once or the ability or desire to refi everything. Wife might agree to pay it as spousal support for a fixed period of time in exchange for him giving up his interest. I have also known it to happen in cases where the wife had something negative that she did not want to come out in open court like a substance abuse issue that could impact her career or multiple affairs she needed to keep under wraps so she agreed to it.

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