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Thread: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So all minorities are expected to believe one particular way and if they don't they're sell outs? Who are these groups that want to "oppress and harm blacks", that black people are aligning with that you feel justified in calling them traitors and sell outs?
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    What a bunch of bull**** justification. You're just ok with it because it's mainly said about black conservatives. Trying to claim it has nothing to do with race is also bull****. And a pro-life woman is a traitor to women? Wow, that's a lot of ridiculous crap for one post.
    I would like to note that the only thing these posts consist of is putting words in the mouths of the people being responded to.

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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
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    What's your answer? You should know.
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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    I would like to note that the only thing these posts consist of is putting words in the mouths of the people being responded to.
    Just cutting to the chase and in the case of Mr. I, I asked a question I'd really like an answer to. It's never occurred to me to call some one else who's white a traitor becasue they disagree politically with me.

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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So all minorities are expected to believe one particular way and if they don't they're sell outs? Who are these groups that want to "oppress and harm blacks", that black people are aligning with that you feel justified in calling them traitors and sell outs?
    No, all black people are not expected to act the same way, but blacks are expected to not be sellouts and bootlickers. For example, some would Clarence Thomas to be an Uncle Tom, seeing as how he didn't back a stay on the execution of Troy Davis when several witnesses had admitted that their testimonies had been false. (Clarence Thomas under fire for Troy Davis decision | theGrio) \\

    There can also be criticism of rap artists. "Sharpton also pointed to rap artists, arguing that many of them are paid by white owned record labels to perform lyrics that degrade themselves and black women. He refers to them as closeted Toms." (Do black people really know their 'Uncle Tom'? | theGrio)
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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Generally the term Uncle Tom is used amongst black people to describe others whom we view as sell-outs and traitors to the race, who have lined up with groups that want to oppress and harm blacks as a whole. Given that context, I do find it offensive when non-black people use the term to describe blacks as it really is something that is mainly kept within the black community.
    I appreciate your point - I'd just ask, if the term is used by one black person against another black person for essentially not being black enough, isn't that then proof that the term is race related and used to imply, explicitly or implicitly, that the black person is white, at least in their thinking?
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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist?


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    I would also propose that conservative opposition to the term "Uncle Tom" is there own version of "political correctness." It seems that many conservatives who have no qualms calling black liberals "brainwashed" and "lazy" and "on a plantation" for their beliefs are the same people who take issue with calling black conservatives "uncle Toms" for theirs.

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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I appreciate your point - I'd just ask, if the term is used by one black person against another black person for essentially not being black enough, isn't that then proof that the term is race related and used to imply, explicitly or implicitly, that the black person is white, at least in their thinking?
    That's not why it's used. You keep reducing it to that, but you're wrong. The term is used to denote black people who hurt other black people in order to please white people.

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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It's definitely a derogatory term, but since its typically directed at a single person and not toward the whole race I don't see it as racist.

    Uncle tom - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
    If a white man calls a black man n****r, do you think he's talking about all black men or just the one he's speaking to? If he's just speaking to that one black man, do you believe his use of the word isn't racist?
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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    No, all black people are not expected to act the same way, but blacks are expected to not be sellouts and bootlickers. For example, some would Clarence Thomas to be an Uncle Tom, seeing as how he didn't back a stay on the execution of Troy Davis when several witnesses had admitted that their testimonies had been false. (Clarence Thomas under fire for Troy Davis decision | theGrio) \\
    So Clarence Thomas, in order to not be an Uncle Tom should not rule on law but on race, giving preference to blacks? What if he'd have made the exact same decision if the guy was white?

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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If a white man calls a black man n****r, do you think he's talking about all black men or just the one he's speaking to? If he's just speaking to that one black man, do you believe his use of the word isn't racist?
    "Nigger" is inherently used to denote black people, in general. "Uncle Tom" is inherently used to describe a specific "type" of black person. What part of this do you not understand. It has nothing to do with the intent of the speaker, but the meaning of the word.

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