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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    no, it's not.

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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    It was inappropriate in the example that has recently come up, but because the guy who was talking about Clarence Thomas was white. It is not an inherently racist term. It does not degrade the person it is used on merely for their race. It is meant to be a criticism of one's actions from a member of the same group, be it race, religion, gender, whatever. A pro choice woman could certainly call an anti abortion woman an Uncle Tom. That it refers to a black character does not make it racist. But the point is that it criticizes a person for their actions, for their betrayal. It is not exclusive to blacks, despite the origin.

    This is just faux conservative outrage by people who have never experienced actual discrimination and don't know how to recognize it when it happens.
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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Generally the term Uncle Tom is used amongst black people to describe others whom we view as sell-outs and traitors to the race, who have lined up with groups that want to oppress and harm blacks as a whole. Given that context, I do find it offensive when non-black people use the term to describe blacks as it really is something that is mainly kept within the black community.
    That seems to be an unfortunate result of the racial divide in our country. I've heard it used simply because a black man or woman has chosen to dress conservatively in both casual and professional attire, discard the use of slang and perjoratives (like "nigger") in conversation, maintain normal speaking tones without the need to express loud behaviors, avoid and/or express dislike of rap and similar music, all of which simply generates the presumption they are acting "white." Why must someone display the most radical behaviors in order to be accepted in ones own "racial" group?

    An uncle (by marriage) was a member of the Nation of Islam during the 60's and 70's, and always spoke politely and dressed conservatively. Today, based solely on his appearance and behavior he would as likely be labeled an "Uncle Tom."
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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist?

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    In so much as other derogatory slurs based largely around race are inherently "racist".

    Personally I would say it, and other slurs, are not inherently racist but rather the primary way in which they're used is racist.

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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    In so much as other derogatory slurs based largely around race are inherently "racist".

    Personally I would say it, and other slurs, are not inherently racist but rather the primary way in which they're used is racist.
    It's definitely a derogatory term, but since its typically directed at a single person and not toward the whole race I don't see it as racist.

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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    If a White calls a Black an "Uncle Tom" or a "Tom" it is racist, if a Black calls a Black it is not.

    The double standard is justified because the term means different things to different users.

    To a white it is a racial slur just like the n-word: the target's race is what is wrong with him.
    To a Black it is a character slur: it is not the target's race that is wrong with him, but his attitude.

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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    That seems to be an unfortunate result of the racial divide in our country. I've heard it used simply because a black man or woman has chosen to dress conservatively in both casual and professional attire, discard the use of slang and perjoratives (like "nigger") in conversation, maintain normal speaking tones without the need to express loud behaviors, avoid and/or express dislike of rap and similar music, all of which simply generates the presumption they are acting "white." Why must someone display the most radical behaviors in order to be accepted in ones own "racial" group?

    An uncle (by marriage) was a member of the Nation of Islam during the 60's and 70's, and always spoke politely and dressed conservatively. Today, based solely on his appearance and behavior he would as likely be labeled an "Uncle Tom."
    Actually no. What you are describing are the differences in behavior that come from one's socioeconomic background. One can be a middle or upper-class back person and not be an Uncle Tom. The main behavior of an Uncle Tom is that they adamantly are willing to sell out black people or betray the race for their own personal gains or to look better in the eyes of whites. For an example of this, all one need to do is look at the character Uncle Ruckus from the tv series The Boondocks, although they obviously aren't that extreme in real life.
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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Generally the term Uncle Tom is used amongst black people to describe others whom we view as sell-outs and traitors to the race, who have lined up with groups that want to oppress and harm blacks as a whole. Given that context, I do find it offensive when non-black people use the term to describe blacks as it really is something that is mainly kept within the black community.
    So all minorities are expected to believe one particular way and if they don't they're sell outs? Who are these groups that want to "oppress and harm blacks", that black people are aligning with that you feel justified in calling them traitors and sell outs?

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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    It was inappropriate in the example that has recently come up, but because the guy who was talking about Clarence Thomas was white. It is not an inherently racist term. It does not degrade the person it is used on merely for their race. It is meant to be a criticism of one's actions from a member of the same group, be it race, religion, gender, whatever. A pro choice woman could certainly call an anti abortion woman an Uncle Tom. That it refers to a black character does not make it racist. But the point is that it criticizes a person for their actions, for their betrayal. It is not exclusive to blacks, despite the origin.

    This is just faux conservative outrage by people who have never experienced actual discrimination and don't know how to recognize it when it happens.
    What a bunch of bull**** justification. You're just ok with it because it's mainly said about black conservatives. Trying to claim it has nothing to do with race is also bull****. And a pro-life woman is a traitor to women? Wow, that's a lot of ridiculous crap for one post.
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    re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist?


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    No, not inherently. It is a racially charged term and perhaps racially insensitive, particularly when used by white people. However, because it inherently describes a particular black person - usually considered to be the exception and not the rule - it isn't innately racist.
    Last edited by ThePlayDrive; 06-28-13 at 03:42 PM.

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