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Thread: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

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    Re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
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    Re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    That still makes it racist. Just because a black person says it does not make it no longer a racist remark.
    Digs, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. The term comes from a revised version of a book in which the character, Uncle Tom, who basically betrays or sells out other of his own race for personal gain. The original version was a 180 degrees from the revision. Uncle Tom winds up dying for his family and community.

    But unfortunately...the revision became a derogatory metaphor.

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    Re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

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    Re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    To XFactor and CanadaJohn, I am not personally arguing if Justice Thomas is or is not a Tom, only how some can argue that he is a Tom.
    I just want to take this opportunity to thank you for your comments in this thread. I've learned a great deal from your explanations and the perspective of the black community on terms that I, for one, thought I understood... but didn't.

    Good job, I appreciate it!

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    Re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    X...okay.

    Uncle Tom is simply a term used to imply or state that a black person has defected and or abandoned the black culture...in context to the story...in which the term is derived from.

    If you choose to call it "race related"..so be it...

    And no...white judges aren't going to be considered uncle toms because the term...didn't derive from a story about a "white" uncle tom...who became a turn-coat of sorts against whites.

    It might behove you to read "Uncle Tom's Cabin" to grasp the differences in who he was in the book verse how he as completely recreated to make a movie.
    Except that the argument has been made in this thread that the term is completely separate from race (in order to claim it's not racist). I agree with you that that is clearly not true.

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    Re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I just want to take this opportunity to thank you for your comments in this thread. I've learned a great deal from your explanations and the perspective of the black community on terms that I, for one, thought I understood... but didn't.

    Good job, I appreciate it!
    Well, I am glad that you learned, but do keep in mind that I don't represent the entire black community, although I think a lot of other black people would agree with me on the definition.
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    Re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    I don't really think any term is inherently racist. I wouldn't really call the way it was used in the situation I believed the OP was referencing racist either. Like some here have said, I think racist gets thrown around a lot in places where it really isn't. Of course, I believe in this case it was used as a pejorative and was completely uncalled for. Just because it wasn't racist does not make it less disgusting.
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    Re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    All too often I've seen the term simply used to mean a black person who is conservative or has some conservative values. It happens repeatedly, case in point; it took like 3 posts for the OP of this thread to be referred to as an Uncle Tom (or female equivalent).

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/zimmer...rt-system.html

    Can we stop pretending it's some legit/fair criticism rather than the bludgeon it actually is?

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    Re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    All too often I've seen the term simply used to mean a black person who is conservative or has some conservative values. It happens repeatedly, case in point; it took like 3 posts for the OP of this thread to be referred to as an Uncle Tom (or female equivalent).

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/zimmer...rt-system.html

    Can we stop pretending it's some legit/fair criticism rather than the bludgeon it actually is?
    That is definitely the way I've most seen it used. Those who use the term that way believe that the Democratic party represents the black community best and that any black person who goes against it is betraying what is best for his/her community for their own self-interests. It's an emotional appeal trying to get someone to go one way, even if it goes against what they believe, out of a duty to their race.

    Also I hate you for linking to a Z/M thread and making me read some of that ****fest.
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    Re: Is the term "Uncle Tom" racist? [W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    That is definitely the way I've most seen it used. Those who use the term that way believe that the Democratic party represents the black community best and that any black person who goes against it is betraying what is best for his/her community for their own self-interests. It's an emotional appeal trying to get someone to go one way, even if it goes against what they believe, out of a duty to their race.

    Also I hate you for linking to a Z/M thread and making me read some of that ****fest.
    Heh, sorry about that. I didn't even realize which forum that was in. Normally, I prefer to spend my forum time in more peaceful surroundings, like Abortion or CT.

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