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Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

Is the phrase "Creepy Ass Cracker" Racist?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 49 62.8%

  • No!

    Votes: 14 17.9%

  • I blame Whitey!

    Votes: 8 10.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 7 9.0%
  • Total voters
    78
Manc Skipper said:
The name "cracker" has been around since long before saltines were invented. Shakespeare used the term. Try again.
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Monkey has been around a long time, too. Would you be ok with calling a black person a monkey?

I'm thinking you would be screaming racist til the cows came home.
 
shrubnose said:
Sounds like you are projecting.

Who has ever said that beating Reginald Denny was justified?

Have you ever been outraged over the mistreatment that Black people in the USA have suffered, and continue to suffer every day in conservative-land ?


I doubt it.




"Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll


"Better days are coming." ~ But not for today's out of touch, running out of time, GOP.
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I would never suggest that someone had something coming or is some sort of oppressor just by virtue of the color of their skin. In conservative land, skin color is just not that important.

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

Martin Luther King, Jr.

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/m/martinluth115056.html#Lu7vz9dTkyMTCVYY.99
 
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apdst said:
Monkey has been around a long time, too. Would you be ok with calling a black person a monkey?

I'm thinking you would be screaming racist til the cows came home.
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Please explain how your thinking process works, it should be illuminating.

Cracker was a term first applied to poor rural dwellers who cracked corn as subsistence food.
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Please explain how your thinking process works, it should be illuminating.

Cracker was a term first applied to poor rural dwellers who cracked corn as subsistence food.
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What's confusing to you? I think he's just looking for parity and consistency (futile as that may be).
 
Manc Skipper said:
Please explain how your thinking process works, it should be illuminating.

Cracker was a term first applied to poor rural dwellers who cracked corn as subsistence food.
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Poor, white rural dwellers, from the southern United States.

You're going to experience failure trying to claim that cracker isn't a racist term.

It's incredibly telling that Libbos defend racist behavior.
 
apdst said:
Poor, white rural dwellers, from the southern United States.

You're going to experience failure trying to claim that cracker isn't a racist term.

It's incredibly telling that Libbos defend racist behavior.
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Poor Scots/Irish rural dwellers, described as such by better off English dwellers. White on White racism!
 
Manc Skipper said:
Please explain how your thinking process works, it should be illuminating.
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that cracker has clear racial connotations. The fact that it was used in some other sense in the past is irrelevant, like the example of monkey above. because language and it's usage evolves and changes, and is heavily dependent on context ...

Cracker was a term first applied to poor rural dwellers who cracked corn as subsistence food.
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and monkey original refers to a primate ...
 
Manc Skipper said:
Poor Scots/Irish rural dwellers, described as such by better off English dwellers. White on White racism!
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are you just going to purposely ignore my citation?
 
Manc Skipper said:
Your point was a reference to saltine biscuits, not poor ex-bondsmen.
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My point was that a term spoken, in slang, by black Americans is having its meaning analyzed by a Brit who references its use by Irishmen and Scots.

Did you know that the word for "*****" in German is a typical greeting in Japan? Kinda illustrates my point further...
 
It was used in America by English settlers to describe poor lower-class Scots/Irish settlers. In America.
 
Manc Skipper said:
"Free" and "online" tend to devalue the source. It's only one of many sources with differing opinions.
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From Websters New World Collage Dictionary, page 337: 5 POOR WHITE: Contemptuous term

from other online sources

a usually disparaging : a poor usually Southern white
Cracker - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Slang: Disparaging and Offensive. a poor white person living in some rural parts of the southeastern U.S.
Cracker | Define Cracker at Dictionary.com

an offensive word for a poor white person with little education from the southern US
cracker - Definition and pronunciation | Oxford Advanced Learners Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com

US offensiveanother term for poor white.
cracker: definition of cracker in Oxford dictionary - American English (US)

AMERICAN an insulting word for a poor white person who lives in the southeastern U.S.
cracker - definition. American English definition of cracker by Macmillan Dictionary

(US) another word for poor White
Definition of cracker | Collins English Dictionary
 
Each one a selective cropping of the full definition. cherry-picking in action.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
This thread demonstrates to me that high school must have a required class on racial issues. There is so much ignorance and people need to be educated about their society. It's no longer acceptable for white people to put their head in the sand when it comes to racial issues.
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LOL. That is a terrible idea. You want to get rid of racism? Stop seeing everything in terms of "black" and "white" (or "Latino" etc. etc.) Race is a social construct. So what we should be teaching is getting rid of said social construct. Not teaching about how one socially constructed group is to blame for every other socially constructed group's problems.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm not impressed with ones personal or community problems. We're discussing sociology and the impacts of actual racism on society. A couple privileged white boys having a hard time now and then is neither significant nor anything that anyone is not aware of. Such myopic vision only serves to perpetuate the misconception that personal anecdotes carry the weight and breadth of actual studies and the society-wide concerns therein.
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Didn't you learn in sociology that "race" is a socially constructed term? I would think all of these "brilliant" (cough cough) sociologists would instead be talking about how to deconstruct and assimilate such groups together rather then blaming one group for everything. But I suppose that would be too pragmatic and not radical enough.
 
ReformCollege said:
LOL. That is a terrible idea. You want to get rid of racism? Stop seeing everything in terms of "black" and "white" (or "Latino" etc. etc.) Race is a social construct. So what we should be teaching is getting rid of said social construct. Not teaching about how one socially constructed group is to blame for every other socially constructed group's problems.
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I never get this argument because it comes off as way too ideal. And while it would if we could just let things lay in the past, the problem is that we have various systemic issues in america that developed directly from past racial relations in this country and don't look like they're going to resolve themselves anytime soon
 
ReformCollege said:
LOL. That is a terrible idea. You want to get rid of racism? Stop seeing everything in terms of "black" and "white" (or "Latino" etc. etc.) Race is a social construct. So what we should be teaching is getting rid of said social construct. Not teaching about how one socially constructed group is to blame for every other socially constructed group's problems.
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The above post is an example of why we need a mandatory class on race in high school. In fact, it should be a three part course on race, gender and sexuality. The first subject to be covered will be "why colorblindness is a myth". The first text in the course will be The Souls of Black Folk by W.E.B. Dubois.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
The above post is an example of why we need a mandatory class on race in high school. In fact, it should be a three part course on race, gender and sexuality. The first subject to be covered will be "why colorblindness is a myth".
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So you believe that people should be judged on the color of your skin? You just said colorblindness is a myth.
 
ReformCollege said:
So you believe that people should be judged on the color of your skin? You just said colorblindness is a myth.
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Colorblindness is a myth.

...wait. If you don't think colorblindness is a myth, does this mean you've never seen a black or white or Hispanic person before?!!111!!!! If this is so, what do you make of all the references to blacks, Hispanics, whites, Asians, et al. in society? Is it just gibberish to you??!!1!
 
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