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Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

Is the phrase "Creepy Ass Cracker" Racist?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 49 62.8%

  • No!

    Votes: 14 17.9%

  • I blame Whitey!

    Votes: 8 10.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 7 9.0%
  • Total voters
    78
instagramsci said:
You can mentally masturbate over posting dictionary definitions all day. It doesn't make you any more correct.
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Grace us with your definition of "Racists", if you please. It seems like everybody who can read a Websters is wrong...but you, of course.
 
Buck Ewer said:
A racist is one who believes that their particular race is superior to all others.
A racist comment would be something a racist would say.
There is no evidence that Trayvon believed that his race was superior to all others.
The comment was not racist.
The term cracker is a descriptive pejorative term and is no more racist than the term "creepy assed".
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A racist is one who believes that their particular race is superior to all others.
A racist comment would be something a racist would say.
There is no evidence that Paula Deen believed that her race was superior to all others.
The comment was not racist.
 
instagramsci said:
Get over it cracker.
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And that makes insult #4 from you towards me in this thread.

You must be doing splendidly well in this discussion!!!!!
 
Removable Mind said:
Grace us with your definition of "Racists", if you please. It seems like everybody who can read a Websters is wrong...but you, of course.
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The Webster's definition is a definition of racism.

Just not one that really matters.
 
Caine said:
No. Because it has no ****ing meaning T.T..T...T...TT... TODAY JUNIOR!!!!!

Can you grasp that?
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I'm 42 and vastly more educated, experienced and traveled than you. Spare me the "junior".

Racism exists in America today. That's a fact.

However, that racism is not blacks oppressing whites and exercising privilege over them. Blacks bitching about whites is of no social or personal consequence to me whatsoever; however, whites bitching about blacks carries societal weight due to actual (system based) racists permeating our power structures.
 
instagramsci said:
Not really. :coffeepap
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Yes it does.A dictionary is a book of what words mean.If you claimed that "orange" really meant the color black and the dictionary says you are wrong then you are wrong period.It doesn't matter if you post a source from some quacks claiming that "orange" means the color black.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm 42 and vastly more educated, experienced and traveled than you. Spare me the "junior".

Racism exists in America today. That's a fact.

However, that racism is not blacks oppressing whites and exercising privilege over them. Blacks bitching about whites is of no social or personal consequence to me whatsoever; however, whites bitching about blacks carries societal weight due to actual (system based) racists permeating our power structures.
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There is no system based racism....

You keep claiming it until you turn blue in the face....

Today is not 30-40 years ago.

The only system based racism I see is Affirmative Action.... and the enforcement (not the law itself) of the hate crimes legislation.
 
Redress said:
It depends. Racial slurs are not of themselves racist. "Creepy ass cracker/nigger/kike/whateverthe****" is racist if the reason they are creepy is because of the race. If it is just a cracker who is creepy, then no. Racism requires a feeling of superiority over the other race. This is why I complain that people overuse the term racism in a big way here.

May I ask what brought this question about?
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Your question may have been answered already, but now that I see the thread has degenerated into another "define racism" argument I can't be bothered to read the rest of it, lol.

Trayvon Martin's friend, who was on the phone with him, relayed TM saying that "some creepy ass cracker" was staring at him. That was George Zimmerman. TM said he was going to take a short-cut to the home of his father, with whom he was visiting, and told his friend basically "... that nigger is following me!"

To me, in the entire context of the phone conversation between the two, it seemed common slang terms used without thought by the two of them and probably the friends they hung out with. I didn't see it as racist; just vulgar slang, common among many kids today.
 
DiAnna said:
Your question may have been answered already, but now that I see the thread has degenerated into another "define racism" argument I can't be bothered to read the rest of it, lol.

Trayvon Martin's friend, who was on the phone with him, relayed TM saying that "some creepy ass cracker" was staring at him. That was George Zimmerman. TM said he was going to take a short-cut to the home of his father, with whom he was visiting, and told his friend basically "... that nigger is following me!"

To me, in the entire context of the phone conversation between the two, it seemed common slang terms used without thought by the two of them and probably the friends they hung out with. I didn't see it as racist; just vulgar slang, common among many kids today.
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And would you consider it racist if a white person said on the phone to their white friend, "that creepy ass nigger is following me" ??
 
jamesrage said:
Yes it does.A dictionary is a book of what words mean.If you claimed that "orange" really meant the color black and the dictionary says you are wrong then you are wrong period.It doesn't matter if you post a source from some quacks claiming that "orange" means the color black.
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Once again:
Appeals to dictionary definitions are annoying because they imply that the language we speak should be prescribed by, not described in, dictionaries. That language is not living and mutable.
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Also. Racism is not a color. Or a fruit.
 
Surtr said:
Honestly I think it's funny. If somebody called me cracker, honkey, or peckerwood, I'd probably laugh.
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I did...

Many times....

Back in my Law Enforcement days.



And, oh by the way, the black cops.... laughed too when they were called nigger.

Anybody who is worth a **** in society doesn't get offended over stupid **** like being called a name..



Now, society finding it acceptable for one ethnic group to be hateful of another group due to wrongdoings that nobody alive is responsible for in the past........ That is something that I can't accept if we are supposed to be looking for "Equality"
 
HumanBeing said:
Right, because websters doesn't have a definition for the word racist.
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I didn't even say that.

I said Webster's dictionary has a definition that means something.

But that that meaning is more or less irrelevant, and is primarily used in arguments like this.
 
If any of you white privileged people ever had to suffer real - institutionalized - discrimination, you wouldn't be crying about how some relatively powerless minority calling you names is the same thing.
 
instagramsci said:
Once again:


Also. Racism is not a color. Or a fruit.
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A dictionary is a source of words and their meaning.So if you claim a word means something and no credible dictionary supports your claim then you are a wrong.
 
instagramsci said:
But that that meaning is more or less irrelevant
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Why is the dictionary definition of racism/racist irrelevant to a discussion about what the word means? In fact, what could possibly be more relevant?

ecofarm has posted multiple times about it
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His own source contradicted his statement and definition.
 
Surtr said:
Honestly I think it's funny. If somebody called me cracker, honkey, or peckerwood, I'd probably laugh.
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Thus demonstrating the difference. You laugh because the insult is powerless and thus meaningless. It's not them same when it represents actual oppression and privilege - racism.
 
ecofarm said:
If any of you white privileged people ever had to suffer real - institutionalized - discrimination, you wouldn't be crying about how some relatively powerless minority calling you names is the same thing.
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If any black people had to suffer real - institutionalized - discrimination.... im sure there was more to it than an old lady calling her robber a nigger in story retellling mode to her relatives.
 
instagramsci said:
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Also. Racism is not a color. Or a fruit.
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You're exactly right. Racism is an attitude and behavior toward others of a different race, based on beliefs a person holds, which includes, but not limited to, other races are inferior to their own.
 
ecofarm said:
Thus demonstrating the difference. You laugh because the insult is powerless and thus meaningless. It's not them same when it represents actual oppression and privilege - racism.
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(Note: Actual oppression and privilege not experienced by 80 percent of the people who get offended by it)
 
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