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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It depends. Racial slurs are not of themselves racist. "Creepy ass cracker/nigger/kike/whateverthe****" is racist if the reason they are creepy is because of the race. If it is just a cracker who is creepy, then no. Racism requires a feeling of superiority over the other race. This is why I complain that people overuse the term racism in a big way here.

    May I ask what brought this question about?

    This witness below for the prosecution said that Trayvon used the term "creepy ass cracker" as someone who was following him. When asked did she think it was a racist statement she said "no" repeatedly.

    Eco has a point somewhat about the gravity of racial slurs having less significance coming from an historically oppressed class. Doesn't make it socially polite or good etiquette but they're still not on an equal footing institutionally.


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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    "Hate crime".
    Evidently we are not all equal in the eyes of the law. Penalties for the same action can vary depending on color, race or preference.
    Ecofarm's arguement is that there is racist laws. Are hate crime laws racist? Please consider the context of the arguement.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    An "ism?" We have laws against racism in this country, when it comes to it affecting a person's life, job, etc. Name-calling is just name-calling though.
    The significant part of it being an "ism" that he missed is that it's not a verb. It doesn't require a state or an institution or anything of the sort, and even his own silly out of context link said so. It merely gave examples of different types of racism, one of which partially fits his narrow, deeply misguided definition.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    A group of pseudo-intellectuals who come together to make up a bunch of rules about society and call it a science are not the end all be all when it comes to society either.
    Social theorists didn't make up rules

    They proposed theories and then provided evidence to support their claims

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well heres what i am sensing from you:

    "there is racism against whites, however its small on any scale,..however racism against blacks its massive and powerful.
    It's not so much a matter of size as much as pervasiveness within society. A black disliking whites carries no real societal weight whatsoever.

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    This witness below for the prosecution said that Trayvon used the term "creepy ass cracker" as someone who was following him. When asked did she think it was a racist statement she said "no" repeatedly.

    Eco has a point somewhat about the gravity of racial slurs having less significance coming from an historically oppressed class. Doesn't make it socially polite or good etiquette but they're still not on an equal footing institutionally.


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    And they never will be if one keeps making special exceptions for them.....


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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    Social theorists didn't make up rules

    They proposed theories and then provided evidence to support their claims
    They pick and choose.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's not so much a matter of size as much as pervasiveness within society. A black disliking whites carries no real societal weight whatsoever.
    I guess flash mobs of racist blacks terrorizing white people on the basis of being white carries no society weight whatsoever.....

    But wait,, that doesn't happen does it?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's not so much a matter of size as much as pervasiveness within society. A black disliking whites carries no real societal weight whatsoever.
    yes i know becuase its not covered by the media, and that person is not demonized as the media usually do against a white person..

    shall we talk about the Uncle Thomas comment, or Paula Dean....?

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    Dictionary definitions are not the end all be all meanings of words

    People make that mistake much too often
    If you are going to claim what a word means then the dictionary is the source of what that word means period.You can't claim a word means something and the dictionary doesn't back it up.
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