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    Re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm not impressed with ones personal or community problems. We're discussing sociology and the impacts of actual racism on society. A couple privileged white boys having a hard time now and then is neither significant nor anything that anyone is not aware of. Such myopic vision only serves to perpetuate the misconception that personal anecdotes carry the weight and breadth of actual studies and the society-wide concerns therein.
    Didn't you learn in sociology that "race" is a socially constructed term? I would think all of these "brilliant" (cough cough) sociologists would instead be talking about how to deconstruct and assimilate such groups together rather then blaming one group for everything. But I suppose that would be too pragmatic and not radical enough.

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    Re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    LOL. That is a terrible idea. You want to get rid of racism? Stop seeing everything in terms of "black" and "white" (or "Latino" etc. etc.) Race is a social construct. So what we should be teaching is getting rid of said social construct. Not teaching about how one socially constructed group is to blame for every other socially constructed group's problems.
    I never get this argument because it comes off as way too ideal. And while it would if we could just let things lay in the past, the problem is that we have various systemic issues in america that developed directly from past racial relations in this country and don't look like they're going to resolve themselves anytime soon

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    Re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    LOL. That is a terrible idea. You want to get rid of racism? Stop seeing everything in terms of "black" and "white" (or "Latino" etc. etc.) Race is a social construct. So what we should be teaching is getting rid of said social construct. Not teaching about how one socially constructed group is to blame for every other socially constructed group's problems.
    The above post is an example of why we need a mandatory class on race in high school. In fact, it should be a three part course on race, gender and sexuality. The first subject to be covered will be "why colorblindness is a myth". The first text in the course will be The Souls of Black Folk by W.E.B. Dubois.

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    Re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The above post is an example of why we need a mandatory class on race in high school. In fact, it should be a three part course on race, gender and sexuality. The first subject to be covered will be "why colorblindness is a myth".
    So you believe that people should be judged on the color of your skin? You just said colorblindness is a myth.

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    Re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    So you believe that people should be judged on the color of your skin? You just said colorblindness is a myth.
    Colorblindness is a myth.

    ...wait. If you don't think colorblindness is a myth, does this mean you've never seen a black or white or Hispanic person before?!!111!!!! If this is so, what do you make of all the references to blacks, Hispanics, whites, Asians, et al. in society? Is it just gibberish to you??!!1!

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    Re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Didn't you learn in sociology that "race" is a socially constructed term? I would think all of these "brilliant" (cough cough) sociologists would instead be talking about how to deconstruct and assimilate such groups together rather then blaming one group for everything. But I suppose that would be too pragmatic and not radical enough.
    It's not about blaming, it's about recognizing reality. I understand that objectively viewing stats and studies conducted over the course of decades means nothing to most and anecdotal evidence will suffice for observing the world, but education and science is always an option - it's never too late.

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    Re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I never get this argument because it comes off as way too ideal. And while it would if we could just let things lay in the past, the problem is that we have various systemic issues in america that developed directly from past racial relations in this country and don't look like they're going to resolve themselves anytime soon
    30 years ago SSM might have been seen as "too idealistic" because there were various systematic issues regarding past religious relations. I don't think there is anything too idealistic about raising the next generation to be "colorblind" on race. Reducing people down to either "white" or "minority" and pitting the groups against each other isn't doing anything to ease racial tensions in this country unfortunately.

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    Re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's not about blaming, it's about recognizing reality. I understand that objectively viewing stats and studies conducted over the course of decades means nothing to most and anecdotal evidence will suffice for observing the world, but education and science is always an option - it's never too late.
    So why do such statistics and studies use those socially constructed terms as opposed to others. Is every problem in the world reducible to what the color of someone's skin is?

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    Re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    So why do such statistics and studies use those socially constructed terms as opposed to others. Is every problem in the world reducible to what the color of someone's skin is?
    Socially constructed terms should be viewed socially. Of course, some would prefer to ignore all context and just go with "it's all the same". False equivalence is easy, common... boring.

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    Re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Socially constructed terms should be viewed socially. Of course, some would prefer to ignore all context and just go with "it's all the same". False equivalence is easy, common... boring.
    The point of "social construction" is to "deconstruct" it.

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