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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I never said the quote wasn't there...

    I have made no errors whatsoever.
    It seems that you misunderstood "institutional" to mean "overt state-backed".

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Nothing in there about "institutional backing." Nothing about minorities not being able to be racist.
    For the definition of institutional in regard to this topic, see Mr.Invisible's post(s) earlier in this thread. To understand how minorities cannot be racist, re-read the sociological definition I've quoted above - it's not complicated to figure out.

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Without getting to that point, it's common bigotry. It only becomes an ism when the state, 'the man', has got ones back.
    In that case, racism no longer exists (at least in the US and most developed countries) as the State no longer sanctions racism.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It seems that you misunderstood "institutional" to mean "overt state-backed".
    I know what institutional means. What I reject is your idea that a minority cannot be racist.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    To understand how minorities cannot be racist, re-read the sociological definition I've quoted above - it's not complicated to figure out.
    Once again, I do not accept the definition of SOME sociologists. I accept the commonly accepted definition.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Once again, I do not accept the definition of SOME sociologists. I accept the commonly accepted definition.
    The point is that the wiki quote said that minorities cannot be racist, just in a few words that you didn't seem to notice or perhaps had not considered. You claimed that the wiki page said no such thing. You were wrong - it does, under definitions/sociological. That same quote also notes the required institutional backing, which you also seem to have missed.

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The point is that the wiki quote said that minorities cannot be racist, just in a few words that you didn't seem to notice or perhaps had not considered. You claimed that the wiki page said no such thing.
    Point to me where I said that. I said the top of that article supports the definition the majority of us accept.


    That same quote also notes the required institutional backing, which you also seem to have missed.
    And I think those few sociologists who think that is the only requirement for racism are full of ****. To me, (and most of society), racism is a feeling of prejudice against another race (whether or not that other race is a minority).

    Do you think I think am not familiar with your definition? I've taken sociology courses. There are some who accept it and many who don't.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Eco, you never responded to post #352. Do you think racism no longer exists, or do you think the State sanctions racism?
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    In that case, racism no longer exists (at least in the US and most developed countries) as the State no longer sanctions racism.



    Unfortunately racism continues to exist all over this planet, including, of course, in every part of the USA.

    Most people are racist to some extent.


    But a lot of people will continue to deny that racism exists for their own reasons.

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing View Post
    TYou don't get to decide what words mean by yourself. The dictionary, and even your own source have already shown you to be completely wrong about this.
    And yet he thinks we must accept the definition given by some sociologists, lol.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    The title says it all.... do you believe calling someone a "Creepy Ass Cracker" is racist???????
    First of all, he didn't say it to Zimmerman...It was a descriptive term he used to the girl....I believe that the word cracker goes back to slavery days to describe the oppressor and has been used ever since out of habit more than anything else....Yes, it can be viewed as derogatory, but not necessarily racist especially by a teenager who was startled that someone was stalking him, and nervous and fearful...He saw a creepy ass cracker and that is how he perceived and described him....

    Semantics---racism, bigotry, prejudism---does still exist in this country.....if that wasn't the case, why do some high schools in the South still have two proms--one for whites and one for blacks and other minorities? Why are more blacks and Latinos in prisons than whites? The system works against minorities....That is not institutional racism, but not far from it.......Jim Crow was not "that" long ago.....

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