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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Why not?
    Because it's irrelevant.

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    Look, it's all semantic, but "racism" usually implies action. While "prejudice" or "bigotry" is based on thought or speech.

    I'll be honest, it's parsing. But that is what is usually used to differentiate the "harmless bigot" (the person who thinks / says terrible things about people of other races) from the "racist." This would be the person who denies a job, housing, or commits an act of violence against a person of another race or ethnicity.

    Again, parsing, but what Paula Deen did (regardless of what you think of it) isn't what George Zimmerman did. And if - IF - Zimmerman's actions are determined to be based on race, then that's obviously racism at its worst. Paula Deen said some nasty things and fantasized about a ridiculously stupid wedding reception - but she didn't kill anybody.

    Paula is (willfully or not) ignorant and doesn't deserve the scorn she received for admitting to being stupid. Zimmerman believed a black kid was automatically suspicious and (as it appears - I'll wait for final judgment) shot him. These are very different circumstances and we're talking about very different people.



    Anyone who has an adverse opinion of someone simply because that person belongs to a certain ethnic group is a racist.

    Whether they just look down their nose at the person or go all the way and shoot him, it's all racism.




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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    From the wiki, as quoted earlier:
    So I guess we should go by what some sociologists say.

    I like the definition at the top. 95% of people would agree with it, including I'm sure the rest of the sociologists.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    Because it's irrelevant.
    No, it isn't. A hypothetical can help one understand another person's viewpoint. You learn those as well in school.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That is a quote from the wiki link under definitions/sociological.
    Yeah, the definition according to some sociologists.

    The top of the wiki article gives a definition the rest of us agree with.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    So I guess we should go by what some sociologists say.

    I like the definition at the top. 95% of people would agree with it, including I'm sure the rest of the sociologists.
    So you admit that my link and quote was legit, right? I mean, I clarified and you still claimed the quote was not there. I just want to make sure that you acknowledge your error and false claim before we debate further.

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    Aw, did your feelings get hurt when someone called you a cracker? Poor baby.

    At least that word isn't used to dehumanize you like the n-word is to black people.
    Its all about context. "Cracker" can be used to dehumanize just as saying "Nigga" can be used to humanize (and vice versa). I thought you were opposed to strict definitions and preferred context clues?
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Its all about context. "Cracker" can be used to dehumanize just as saying "Nigga" can be used to humanize (and vice versa). I thought you were opposed to strict definitions and preferred context clues?
    n***er does not evoke the same feelings that cracker does

    it doesn't

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So you admit that my link and quote was legit, right? I mean, I clarified and you still claimed the quote was not there.
    I never said the quote wasn't there. But you cannot expect the rest of us to accept the definition given by SOME sociologists when it is clear that even sociologists are not in agreement on a definition. "Racism" is a term that can describe an individual's feelings as well as an institution itself. That is how the vast majority of society sees it. Accept it.


    I just want to make sure that you acknowledge your error and false claim before we debate further.
    I have made no errors whatsoever.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    n***er does not evoke the same feelings that cracker does

    it doesn't
    It depends on the individual. Who are you to speak for everyone?
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