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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If you want someone to prove racism exists in America, start a thread and perhaps one of our middle-schoolers could help.
    And sociologists wonder why no one else takes them seriously.

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Which institutions oppress minorities? As others have noted, we DO have a black president who was elected by the individuals in this society that you claim to be based on some institutionalized racism. Fifty to 100 years ago, I would have agreed with you. But now, not so much.

    Of course, I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any evidence to back what you are saying.
    I'm not claiming that specific state institutions exist to openly oppress a minority.

    I'm claiming that racism (racial bigotry against a minority [power]) still exists in America and it permeates all of our institutions. Racial bigotry against whites does not permeate or even affect any of society's institutions. That's the difference between the bigotries.

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm not claiming that specific state institutions exist to openly oppress a minority.

    I'm claiming that racism (racial bigotry against a minority power) still exists in America and it permeates all of our institutions. Racial bigotry against whites does not permeate or even affect any of society's institutions. That's the difference between the bigotries.
    How can you make that claim? Are there no black or other minority-based institutions?

    And how would you explain America voting for a black man as the president?

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's a racial slur but not racist. Racism requires institutional backing.
    Since when did racism need institutional backing? Racism is racism whether it be institutional or personal. I mean according to the definition, you know in the dictionary anyway.

    Now people want to be racist, but if not back up by an institution it's OK because it's supposedly not racist? What a load of crap.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    That's what academic, peer-reviewed sociological studies are for.
    You mean the same peer-reviewed journals that let garbage like this get published? Postmodern Gravity Deconstructed, Slyly - NYTimes.com

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm not claiming that specific state institutions exist to openly oppress a minority.

    I'm claiming that racism (racial bigotry against a minority [power]) still exists in America and it permeates all of our institutions. Racial bigotry against whites does not permeate or even affect any of society's institutions. That's the difference between the bigotries.
    Ok I agree with this but it does not mean it needs to be backed by an institution to be racist. If a checkout clerk refuses someone service because of race, it is a racist act. If the person believes they are justified and above the other person because of race, it is indeed racist. Even if the person is fired, it makes the action and person no less racist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How can you make that claim? Are there no black or other minority-based institutions?
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    Ok I agree with this but it does not mean it needs to be backed by an institution to be racist. If a checkout clerk refuses someone service because or race, it is a racist act. If the person believes they are justified and above the other person it is indeed racist. Even if the person is fired, it makes the action and person no less racist.

    You're missing the big (national) picture:

    Racial bigotry against whites has no affect on me.
    Racial bigotry against blacks has a tremendous affect on them (and thus us).

    Racial bigotry against me is not racism. There is no societal and thus institutional power for me to fear.
    Racial bigotry against blacks is racism. There is societal and institutional power behind the hatred.

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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Okay. I just want to see some examples of institutionalized racism.
    Gladly

    "One historic example of institutional racism is the barring of African-American students from attending certain public schools, which limited the students' educational opportunities and helped prevent them from achieving a status equal to that of others. Institutional racism need not involve intentional racial discrimination. For example, individual judges might intend to impose similar sentences for similar crimes; yet if Caucasian people tend to receive lighter punishments, plausibly institutional racism occurs." (Definition of Institutional Racism | Chegg.com) [In regards to that last sentence, think the crack-cocaine sentencing disparity.)

    Look also:

    Racism in Schools: Unintentional But No Less Damaging

    Examples of Institutional Racism | Educational Leadership Development Resource Library

    Institutional Racism in US Health Care

    http://webmedia.unmc.edu/community/c...cismReport.pdf
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    You mean the same peer-reviewed journals that let garbage like this get published? Postmodern Gravity Deconstructed, Slyly - NYTimes.com
    One example means absolutely nothing in regards to the actual studies done that are published.

    EDIT: Also, really, your source is an NYT article from almost 20 years ago about how there was a slip-up? Come on man, you can do better than that.
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    re: Creepy Ass Cracker.... Racist or no? [W:329/550]

    It almost seems as if this is a convenient way to basically say that everyone who is a white American is a racist, based on some bogus "institutionalized" racism. Yet no one can seem to actually point out any of this supposed institutionalized racism? If it exists, then it can be seen. Otherwise, this is nothing but a person's or group of people's theories.

    Another thing to think about is differences in individual people. Do many people refer to a black doctor as the n-word? Doubtful. Of course there's always going to be that jerk. However, look at your average black gangbanger, and I'm sure that person has been referred to as the n-word numerous times. Is it really because of the color of his skin?

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