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Thread: Conservatives: is paganism part of the Western tradition you want to conserve?

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    Conservatives: is paganism part of the Western tradition you want to conserve?

    I was reading a book on the history of rightist movements between the World Wars and was taken aback by just how pagan-influenced they were. I don't merely refer here to the overrated influence of Aryan theosophy on early Nazism, but to non-fascist movements like Ernst Jünger's Revolutionary Conservative Movement and the French New Right. These movements both consciously rejected Christianity in favor of a heavily paganized worldview - paganism being taken by them as the authentic European tradition, ans Christianity an alien imposition on Western man.

    Then I look around and wonder: why is there none of this on the Right today?
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    Re: Conservatives: is paganism part of the Western tradition you want to conserve?

    For the record, if this aspect of conservatism figured at all amongst American conservatives (as opposed to beer-bellied Southern Baptism or impotent Catholicism), then I would be the most conservative of conservatives.
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    Re: Conservatives: is paganism part of the Western tradition you want to conserve?

    Who regards paganism as part of "Western tradition"?

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    Re: Conservatives: is paganism part of the Western tradition you want to conserve?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Who regards paganism as part of "Western tradition"?
    Why should we willfully exclude European deities like Aries or Wotan from our reverence in favor of a desert god like Yahweh?

    The former is my natural heritage and yours. The Judeo-Christian 'heritage' is an imposition.
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    Re: Conservatives: is paganism part of the Western tradition you want to conserve?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Who regards paganism as part of "Western tradition"?
    Apparently, Einzige does. Possibly some scattered deviant here and there who regards himself as a “right-wing”, while admiring the Nazi movement or those other more obscure European movements that similarly adopted aspects of Paganism.

    But no modern conservatives that I know of.

    The only significant religious underpinning to modern Western culture has Judeo/Christian roots. Paganism, for the most part, is a relic of cultures that have been dead for a thousand years or more.
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    Re: Conservatives: is paganism part of the Western tradition you want to conserve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Apparently, Einzige does. Possibly some scattered deviant here and there who regards himself as a “right-wing”, while admiring the Nazi movement or those other more obscure European movements that similarly adopted aspects of Paganism.

    But no modern conservatives that I know of.

    The only significant religious underpinning to modern Western culture has Judeo/Christian roots. Paganism, for the most part, is a relic of cultures that have been dead for a thousand years or more.
    Ah. So you're either a beer-bellied Baptist or an impotent Catholic.

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    Re: Conservatives: is paganism part of the Western tradition you want to conserve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Ah. So you're either a beer-bellied Baptist or an impotent Catholic.
    None of the above. I am not beer-bellied (rather odd, actually, since I have a medical condition which usually has a very strong tendency to cause those with this condition to have a “beer-bellied” physique), impotent, Catholic, nor Baptist.
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    Re: Conservatives: is paganism part of the Western tradition you want to conserve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Conservatives: is paganism part of the Western tradition you want to conserve?
    I guess I never thought about it in those terms. I don't discriminate against any religion but satanism, so I guess paganism is welcome, sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I was reading a book on the history of rightist movements between the World Wars and was taken aback by just how pagan-influenced they were. I don't merely refer here to the overrated influence of Aryan theosophy on early Nazism, but to non-fascist movements like Ernst Jünger's Revolutionary Conservative Movement and the French New Right. These movements both consciously rejected Christianity in favor of a heavily paganized worldview - paganism being taken by them as the authentic European tradition, ans Christianity an alien imposition on Western man.
    I'm sorry to say you have me at an advantage, as I'm not familiar with how paganism influenced those wars, so I cannot comment on that.

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    Re: Conservatives: is paganism part of the Western tradition you want to conserve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    None of the above. I am not beer-bellied (rather odd, actually, since I have a medical condition which usually has a very strong tendency to cause those with this condition to have a “beer-bellied” physique), impotent, Catholic, nor Baptist.
    And you deny being pagan so, according to post #2, you're not really a conservative! Must be nice to get out of that closet, huh?

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    Re: Conservatives: is paganism part of the Western tradition you want to conserve?

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Why should we willfully exclude European deities like Aries or Wotan from our reverence in favor of a desert god like Yahweh?
    That's more of a religious question than a political one. Worship whoever you want.

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