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, I am not here to teach
and thank goodness for that.
It would be like Lyle Lovett giving out beauty tips.
, I am not here to teach
Why for important things like math or science or philosophy, not to make bigoted distinctions between other humans. I mean, I know we do it a lot, but we don't need to. There's no purpose to asking "why" in this case, human is human.
What is important is a matter of opinion and thus each person sees what's important differently as well as having different reasons as to why any given matter is important. Searching for the answer to something that seems trivial now may lead to an answer that is important in some other aspect of life. Silly Putty was discovered by an accident in the pursuit of something else. Now you may dismis that, but in the end it improved the lives of many, not in and of itself but in the fact that its production and demand produced many jobs directly and indirectly.
For such as this topic, who knows what it might bring about in learning the many ways in which human or even animal sexual orientation is established. All knowledge can be used of both good and ill, so there is no such thing as useless or bad knowledge. Simply knowledge that is useless to a given purpose, or used in a wrong manner.
Sometimes I think it is, especially in young people. Being gay and/or bi-sexual has become the new Mohawk.
Everyone may not have the choice in the sexual orientation, but its still the choice of the individual to accept it, even if they are powerless to change it. Its like being tall or short isnt a something that you can change you either make the choice to accept that reality or you refuse to accept it. That choice is up to the individual. Thats what I meant by adding at the end of the sentence this: but do so by their choice.Let's look again at what you said:
When you added that "but" in there you indicated that the subjected in the line, those what have no choice, are doing so by their choice. Did you possibly mean to write "...but others do so by their own choice."?
I never claimed that everyone could choose their sexual orientation (in fact also making it clear that those that can are a small minority), and have gone out of my way trying to make that clear. Im sorry that you missed that.I see no contradiction to the concept that there are 4 basic ways to be born sexual orientation wise: Heterosexual, Bi-sexual, Homosexual, and Asexual
I agree with you that if indeed you are one of those who can change your orientation then fine by all means do so. But that doesn't mean that all can, any more than it means that none can choose. The issue is not in whether or not any given individual can choose, but in that those who would suppress homosexuality and bi-sexuality claim that all can choose and thus should not be allowed to choose.
The LBGT movement isnt the representation of all alternative lifestyles. Depending the local membership LBGT groups marginalize other members.and their is infighting. Some lesbians get along great with gays but some cant stand gays at all and vice versa.This is a problem point with me as well. I find it so sad and ironic that there are those in the homosexual community cannot accept the very existence of the bi-sexual community. But do not paint the homosexual community with that broad brush. For if indeed they all felt that way there would not be a LBGT movement. Although for the life of me I still don't see how the T fits in with the LBG save that they face many similar problems.
You'd have to have knowledge on this topic to teach. You don't, as proven by this and many other threads, so you can't.
The definition of bisexual is not an opinion. Your misunderstanding of it is--and it's wrong.Thank you for your opinion, and if thats all that you have then we are done.
Someone being slow on comprehension is not on me
We have already established that you are uneducated on this topic. Heck, in this thread alone you have proven this.
Does it really matter?
Lying does not make you look good, knock it off
it isn't a choice rocket. Just deal with your issues.
You first
What I am asking is this: If you see a woman that you find incredibly unattractive right now in this moment, can you choose to be attracted to her? You say yes, it seems. Really, how?
That's call bisexual, and you can't chose to be bisexual either. Sexuality is not chosen, and there is zero reason to believe it is.
The strongest argument is that homosexuality is very common in the animal kingdom. Animals are much more driven by instinct and less by rational decision making.
This suggests they likely are just following their instincts and basic urgers, not making a decision to be different.
Lakryte, are you still saying that anyone who claims to be able to change orientation must be a bisexual? Circular logic.
You are doing a very poor job of making that point because you know why you didn't like black people or the basement. Fears are simple to understand, fear sevres a purpose.
Sexual orientation isn't a preference that is why you are having difficulty explaining. Nothing In or psyche compares to it.
This isn't about whether one is for or against gay marriage.....
Simply vote and discuss whether you believe that homosexuals have a choice in the matter, or were simply born that way, with no choice whatsoever.
Please be courteous - thanks in advance.
You aren't changing your orientation. Either you were experimenting with the opposite or same sex, or you are bisexual. I don't think you can change your orientation.
The fact is no one knows for sure.
That's the focal point of our disagreement. I think it can change. You think it can't. If there was conclusive evidence either way, one or both of us would have stopped debating this after only a few posts (depending on how fast the conclusive evidence was brought into the thread.)