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Is Homosexuality A Choice?

Is Homosexuality A Choice?

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 15.9%
  • No

    Votes: 136 65.7%
  • Maybe/Don't Know

    Votes: 38 18.4%

  • Total voters
    207
No, bisexual is an orientation separate from others. if we are all bisexual there is only one orientation, that is bisexual. If you are bi you aren't straight or gay. Choosing monogamy with one sex doesn't alter the bisexual orientation.

Right! I believe there is only 1 orientation. Bisexual. In that orientation, we are able, in my opinion, to spend periods of our lives, or our whole lives, in the hetero and the homo lifestyle and switch anytime we want. That's what I think. Let's go back to what you said about bisex as a separate orientation.... Why is it a separate orientation? What makes it so? Does this rely on the idea that orientation is not changeable? Is it not circular logic? "Our idea of orientation supports our other idea that orientation can not change. Since both our ideas are in agreement, they both must be true." I could probably phrase that better. its late again.
 
No. One does not choose who (or what) one is attracted to. The choice comes in whether or not you act upon your attractions.
 
Well, as of right now, I have no intention of trying. I believe it is possible.
It's a bit like pigs flying - it's possible but the landing hurts like hell. Read up on human sexuality. You are of good will but still in the dark. For most people, they can't imagine crawling into the sack with any sex other than they one they do currently.
 
Do you believe you can choose to be attracted to a woman you find incredibly unattractive?

I think the way you phrased that question makes an answer of "yes" to be impossible. How's this.... Do you believe that you can choose to be attracted to a woman you previously found to be unattractive? My answer is yes. I rephrased your ??? bec i don't think a person can exist in state of attraction and a state of unattraction regarding the same object/person at the same time. --Which is what i think your question was asking.
 
No. One does not choose who (or what) one is attracted to. The choice comes in whether or not you act upon your attractions.
That's fine, but you can choose who you bed down with, and people do often enough to make it a 'choice" for some.
 
No. One does not choose who (or what) one is attracted to. The choice comes in whether or not you act upon your attractions.

True. I was attracted to my wife, and I choose to act. 30 years later, we still act in that. Met with a friend two weeks ago, and he and his same sex partner have been doing he same for 22 years. They work jobs, raised kids, pay taxes, go to church, volunteer, cook meals, clean house, help neighbors, and share life in every way me and my wife do. Can't thing of one reason they shouldn't have acted as we did. To me that's the key. There has to be a very strong reason not to act when you live some one.
 
"claiming to know what cannot be proven"
I think there is a name for that...
 
That's fine, but you can choose who you bed down with, and people do often enough to make it a 'choice" for some.

That is pretty much what I said. You choose your partners, not your sexuality
 
An alternating orientation isn't bisexual, bisexual is a rather static orientation. my sexual attraction or orientation never altered and it never will. I am certainly not bisexual.

I disagree (for the moment.) What do you say to this hypothetical: A man lives to be 80. In his first 20 years, he dated women, sexed them up, lusted after them etc etc. Everyone who knew him, identified him as heterosexual. They called it as they saw it. He would agree he was living a hetero lifestyle. From age 20-40 (the ages don't matter), for whatever reason, he discovered men. He dated, flirted, sexed them up, etc etc. Everyone who knew him only during that time, identified him as homo. his earlier friends ID'd him as bisexual. He identified himself as... you fill n the blank. From 40-60, he met a wonderful woman, got married, raised a family, settled down monogamously. At age 60, wifey died and he began to seek out younger men til he died.

Is this possible? How do you identify him? Keep in mind, the age interval's dont matter, keep in mind the amount of "switches" could have been greater or fewer.
 
True. I was attracted to my wife, and I choose to act. 30 years later, we still act in that. Met with a friend two weeks ago, and he and his same sex partner have been doing he same for 22 years. They work jobs, raised kids, pay taxes, go to church, volunteer, cook meals, clean house, help neighbors, and share life in every way me and my wife do. Can't thing of one reason they shouldn't have acted as we did. To me that's the key. There has to be a very strong reason not to act when you live some one.

Guilt, perhaps. Society has its taboos, and it's hard to overestimate their impact on people, especially as they are growing up.
 
Clearly if 2 to 3% of the population is oriented in a certain direction then the other 97 to 98% of the population must bend over backwards to accommodate them !
 
Guilt, perhaps. Society has its taboos, and it's hard to overestimate their impact on people, especially as they are growing up.

Sure they have an effect. But we're speaking of reason here.
 
"claiming to know what cannot be proven"
I think there is a name for that...

Of course there is. There's a name for those little plastic bits at the end of a shoelaces. God only knows what it is but it has a name. We love to name things. Call it the curse of Adam.
 
Really? Did you miss Leviticus? How about that little-known fellow named Paul? I know the Bible friend, that's why I rejected Christianity. Still, it says what it says even if its meaning and context tends to get lost in translation at times.

I know the scripture quite well myself. Paul never mentioned homosexuality, leviticus never mentioned homosexuality. I have actually studied under the tutelage of a person who is an expert on ancient biblical languages. Scripture that predates all the versions of the Bible definitely says something different.

But I don't really care about your interpretation of the Bible or what you think it says or your opinion or any other garbage you want to rant and rave about as far ass the Bible is concerned. I have studied it in depth my interpretation is the only right one for me yours would be wrong for me and mine would be wrong for you.

I grow tired of this pointless discussion you aren't going to be able in the space provided on this web sight to undo my years of study under Rabbi Ullman regarding sexuality and the Bible. No matter how clever you are. You simply don't have the time.

Again there are plenty of Christian denominations that affirm gay people. So christianity is not disapproving of homosexuality, just certain denominations are.
 
and we all know that Christianity is the final arbiter on this issue
 
Clearly if 2 to 3% of the population is oriented in a certain direction then the other 97 to 98% of the population must bend over backwards to accommodate them !

You don't have to bend over backwards. Just get out of it. You are bending over backwards to involve yourself in it. Just don't care, that is easy.
 
Clearly if 2 to 3% of the population is oriented in a certain direction then the other 97 to 98% of the population must bend over backwards to accommodate them !
Well we could just shoot criminals, most people aren't, but we found it a bad way of dealing with society. You could call it bending over backwards but I prefer to call it rational protection of the minority from the majority. Let me know when you'd prefer to toss that out but I know in which group you'll be found when you do.
 
It's the only Rational Position. Both Theists and Atheists are morons, claiming to know what cannot be proven.

That Agnosticism cannot be falsified, since it makes no claims, does not make it rational, let alone, the only rational position. In fact, since it can not be contradicted, it can never be true, therefore, the only rational position to take, is one or the other, atheism or theism, since in principle, one of them must be true.
 
thumbsup csense Agnosticism is like being a lil bit pregnant?
 
You don't have to bend over backwards. Just get out of it. You are bending over backwards to involve yourself in it. Just don't care, that is easy.
But caring gives their life meaning. They have more fun when others don't. That's actually true BTW. The studies have shown that if I offer you $100 you'll turn it down if the other guy gets $500. But if you have $100 more than he does, you are happy as a clam.
 
I disagree (for the moment.) What do you say to this hypothetical: A man lives to be 80. In his first 20 years, he dated women, sexed them up, lusted after them etc etc. Everyone who knew him, identified him as heterosexual. They called it as they saw it. He would agree he was living a hetero lifestyle. From age 20-40 (the ages don't matter), for whatever reason, he discovered men. He dated, flirted, sexed them up, etc etc. Everyone who knew him only during that time, identified him as homo. his earlier friends ID'd him as bisexual. He identified himself as... you fill n the blank. From 40-60, he met a wonderful woman, got married, raised a family, settled down monogamously. At age 60, wifey died and he began to seek out younger men til he died.

Is this possible? How do you identify him? Keep in mind, the age interval's dont matter, keep in mind the amount of "switches" could have been greater or fewer.

Bisexual.
 
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