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Is Homosexuality A Choice?

Is Homosexuality A Choice?

  • Yes

    Votes: 33 15.9%

  • No

    Votes: 136 65.7%

  • Maybe/Don't Know

    Votes: 38 18.4%
  • Total voters
    207
AngryOldGuy said:
I can't be held responsible for my actions
I was born this way
society is to blame
I had a bad home life
Now I will say that I've known a very few homosexuals over the decades that were definitely 'born that way'
but at the end of the day any non-deranged human being is in control of and responsible for their actions.
the poll question was: " Is Homosexuality A Choice"
hmm no wait a minute, if you are hetero and choose to be celibate does that mean what? ;)
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Nothing on the topic. You confuse the act with the attraction.
 
AngryOldGuy said:
I can't be held responsible for my actions
I was born this way
society is to blame
I had a bad home life
Now I will say that I've known a very few homosexuals over the decades that were definitely 'born that way'
but at the end of the day any non-deranged human being is in control of and responsible for their actions.
the poll question was: " Is Homosexuality A Choice"
hmm no wait a minute, if you are hetero and choose to be celibate does that mean what? ;)
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The four common orientations - Hetero, Home, Bi, and Asexual.

Just because it's biology doesn't take away your responsibility for your actions, in most cases. It means we need to take it into account, like roughly 3% to 5% of the population playing for the other team and some who will play with anyone willing to play that night.
 
Boo Radley I'm a bit confused
could you explain (or is that a violation of the rules round here forgive me I'm new)
 
Lakryte said:
Yes, he enjoys the feeling, even though it is a woman. And he may even fantasize about men while with the woman. People masturbate, even without any visual porn, but that doesn't mean they are attracted to themselves.

How on earth does focusing on a mental picture of a man while having sex with the woman mean the man is straight? You are only further proving the reality that homosexuality is not a choice. Why to homosexuals commit suicide then? Why don't they just choose to be straight? Here is a challenge for you: choose to be gay. Try really hard. You seem so sure its a choice--make it yourself. Then, once you have proven it, choose to be straight again. No long term problems. It would be incredibly easy to prove it were all a choice if you could do that...but you can't.

Sexuality is not a choice. Period.
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I attempted to explain it to him, but he simply doesn't understand. Sexuality is far more than friction. If I don't feel attraction to someone I can't choose to be attracted to them, you either are or are not. Thus idea that he has that you can force yourself to become attracted to someone is a recipe for disaster.

But he is the kind of guy that thinks everybody us exactly like him. He repeatedly said that all people are bisexual with nothing to back it up. Personally I wouldn't put much weight into what he says.
 
maquiscat said:
It makes perfect sense. Science has at many points in history refuted it's previous findings, especially where newer and better methods/equipment have been developed and as new discoveries change what we can test on any given issue/topic.item.
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It makes perfect sense maquiscat. Phenology was deemed obsolete when better science psychology, came along. Its hard to come up with examples and sometimes you have to spell it out.
 
NoC_T said:
Homosexuals merely become homosexual to annoy Conservatives. I'm convinced of it.

The options are limited to nature/nurture. That's probably a mistake.
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I completely agree with you on this. Putting it into am either or categorical circumstance really is unrealistic. Frankly it appears to be a divide on partisan political lines. notice that conservatives and liberals agree how they are supposed to. Everybody is afraid to zig when everybody zags. But formulating your own opinion based not on what the jerk with the "R" or the "D" next to his name tells you to think is difficult.
 
AngryOldGuy said:
hmm no wait a minute, if you are hetero and choose to be celibate does that mean what? ;)
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That means you are a celibate heterosexual. :shrug:
 
Nightrider said:
This isn't about whether one is for or against gay marriage.....

Simply vote and discuss whether you believe that homosexuals have a choice in the matter, or were simply born that way, with no choice whatsoever.

Please be courteous - thanks in advance.
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I don't necessarily believe I was born gay, but I am certain that I did not really have a choice in it. I kicked that dead horse long after it was bone. But there are so many different people that I can believe people choose homosexuality. I can only speak for myself. I did not choose it.
 
Rocketman said:
Lack of reading comprehension? try re-reading, your retort makes absolutely no sense
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My retort makes perfect sense, because pointing to outdated and debunked studies and definitions of homosexuality (which you did) is irrelevant to what homosexuality actually is.
 
Boo Radley said:
You must be able to realistically consider sex with both sexes as a possibility. Kissing someone of the same sex must be seen as enjoyable, just as enjoyable as with the opposite sex. Just as we pet and neck with one sex growing up, to be a choice, we must do the same with the other. Otherwise, the choice is not a choice. Something else is dictating what we do.
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I tried to make it clear that I asserted that people are different. You make it sound as if all people are the same.

But again one needs not do A and B to decide to pick B or A. What you are claiming is a false dilemma of sorts. You are claiming that for their to be a choice one must first be bisexual. Which I am sure is true for some people but that doesnt mean that all people who can choose their sexuality are bisexual. Some people can simply say hey I am gay without ever kissing or doing anything sexual with the opposite sex or even the same sex.

Now the part where you are inferring that there wasnt a choice because something else was at play is only relevant for those that claim that their sexuality isnt a choice. You are trying to over simplify sexuality way too much. Human is a very complex system of variables. For example I met a lady at a artists party once that said that she was born a male in a females body. But she was dressed very very femininely, she asserted that she was a gay man so she dresses and acts like a woman. And to further demonstrate the complexities, Some people identify as being female when their body is male but they are straight. Personally I dont dispute anyones sexuality since that is their personal situation.
 
Lakryte said:
My retort makes perfect sense, because pointing to outdated and debunked studies and definitions of homosexuality (which you did) is irrelevant to what homosexuality actually is.
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Indeed we learn more as time goes on. Apparently somebody doesn't like the idea that we learn things and assignee new things make old superstitions obsolete. Galileo and the Catholic church come to mind.
 
Cardinal said:
Most people tend to call that "bisexual."

It's okay.
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A choice usually means that a decision was made. If a person chose to be hetero then they are straight, they are by no means bisexual. Since bisexual would be a different choice rather than being straight.

Its like this choose A B or C (A being Straight, B being Bi, C being not straight) So obviously choosing A isnt choosing B or C.
 
I suppose that's true 2,000 years of human history must be wrong
sheesh good thing we rectified that lil mistake
 
AngryOldGuy said:
I suppose that's true 2,000 years of human history must be wrong
sheesh good thing we rectified that lil mistake
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The list of what Christianity has been right about grows shorter by the day.
 
Cardinal said:
Most people tend to call that "bisexual."

It's okay.
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He is claiming that everybody is bisexual. He is dictating to everybody what their sexuality is. I fail to see his point, because out makes no sense, he doesn't have any education or didn't appear to. This hypothesis he has is debunked. He has not given any means to support this hypothesis.

I would like for him to post some support fur this theory, but i assume that it is simply his interpretation, therefore it is esoteric and rather meaningless.
 
Cardinal said:
Most people tend to call that "bisexual."

It's okay.
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I think we are all bisexual. To me, Bisexual means that one can choose his/her orientation and change as many times he/she wants.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
A choice usually means that a decision was made. If a person chose to be hetero then they are straight, they are by no means bisexual. Since bisexual would be a different choice rather than being straight.

Its like this choose A B or C (A being Straight, B being Bi, C being not straight) So obviously choosing A isnt choosing B or C.
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Except it isn't a choice in my case, and many other cases.
 
Your Star said:
No, what you are describing is the ability to engage in certain behavior. But participating in certain behaviors doesn't make one's orientation. Orientation is in the mind, it is who you are attracted too, yet anyone can have sex with someone of the opposite, or same sex, regardless of actual attraction. If a heterosexual has sex with a member of the same sex, that doesn't make them bisexual, or homosexual, it makes them someone who's engaged in homosexual activity.
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i agree that orientation = who you are attracted. I believe we can change our attractions.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
A choice usually means that a decision was made. If a person chose to be hetero then they are straight, they are by no means bisexual. Since bisexual would be a different choice rather than being straight.

Its like this choose A B or C (A being Straight, B being Bi, C being not straight) So obviously choosing A isnt choosing B or C.
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Can you choose to be attracted to a woman who you find incredibly unattractive?
 
USNavySquid said:
I think we are all bisexual. To me, Bisexual means that one can choose his/her orientation and change as many times he/she wants.
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No, bisexual is an orientation separate from others. if we are all bisexual there is only one orientation, that is bisexual. If you are bi you aren't straight or gay. Choosing monogamy with one sex doesn't alter the bisexual orientation.
 
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