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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    based on what fact?
    re read the whole conversation, I am not here to teach

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    re read the whole conversation, I am not here to teach
    You assume that the bull is there for breeding. If he becomes grade A stake that's a winner right there. When you figure in only breeding ability/desire as your only criteria for "winner/loser" you've already lost.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    read it already, thats what i thought, ZERO "facts" LMAO
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    That's call bisexual, and you can't chose to be bisexual either. Sexuality is not chosen, and there is zero reason to believe it is.
    Thank you for your opinion, and if thats all that you have then we are done.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

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    From the context I wonder if you are confusing the issue with gender fluidity or just paralleling the concept to this. I've never heard of such in regards to sexual orientation, although admittedly, that is indeed what we are talking about. I am assuming that you are seperating this out from bi-sexuality insofar as bi-sexuals are attracted to both genders simultaneously, and sexual fluids, when they make their choice are "locked" towards the one until they change it again?

    The bolded line contradicts itself. If there is no choice then one can't choose, not even choosing not to choose. Could you possibly mean that it's not a conscious choice?
    The bolded sentence does not contradict itself. I said basically some people have no choice. In that situation that I was talking about some peoples orientation involuntarily switches. As opposed to those that do it voluntarily.

    And no Im not mixing anything up.


    WHat I keep hearing from homosexuals and heterosexuals is that you have to be born on or the other. Then they remember bisexuals and insist that they had to be born that way too.

    What exactly would be wrong with a heterosexual deciding to be homosexual? I ask this question to anyone really not just you. I have a friend that says thats exactly what he did. He claims to have not been born gay or anything of the sorts, just that he thought it would be fun. And says that he likes it more than being straight. Personally I dont really care if someone is born gay or not born its their life they can do whatever they want. I would never tell someone what they could or could not do based on what? what are these people basing their claim on that its impossible to decided ones one sexual orientation?

    Sexual Orientation: Is It Unchangeable? | Psychology Today

    So, what does this all mean? Is sexual orientation fluid and/or changeable? Or are some gay and lesbian people really closeted bisexuals? A long time ago, Kinsey told us that bisexuality is much more prevalent than we think. However, we live in a society in which many people (including self-identifying gays and lesbians) don't quite believe in bisexuality. Maybe Anne Heche and some of the respondents in my study are being pressured to "pick one sex, dammit, and stick with it!" Is that what's happening?

    Does it really matter?

    If we truly believe that it is acceptable to have sexual and romantic relationships with the same sex, then it shouldn't matter whether or not sexual orientation is changeable. If it is really OK, we should be as accepting of a person who has a relationship with a man and then a woman as we would of someone who usually eats vanilla ice cream and then decides to start eating pistachio. So what? Sex between two consenting adults, like eating ice cream, should be about pleasure, personal preferences, or expressions of love and affection, not about social rules and definitions. However, in order to support the people in our lives who are struggling with their sexual orientations, we must reluctantly leave Utopia and remember that we live in a world that puts limits on people's sexual inclinations and punishes those who don't follow the rules. People of all sexual orientations (even those who don't claim one) need to find ways to live in a world that stigmatizes same-sex attractions and relationships, and those of us called upon to support and assist these people need to understand this if we are to be helpful.


    Its funny really the homosexual community used to always complain about heteros being so closed minded. Now they seem to be asserting that all I can do is believe that everone is stuck with the sexual orientation that they were born with, sounds a bit closed minded to me.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    SInce he doesn't he becomes a loser, which might explain homosexuality in people. Are they society's losers?
    This is nothing but your own personal value judgment, an opinion that has absolutely no merit when discussing facts, which is what we are. Here's another distinction that you don't seem to understand: demonstrate for us the difference between a fact and an opinion. The reason that I ask is that all you seem to do is post non-factual opinions, when those who oppose your position only seem to post facts. Perhaps this occurs because you don't really know the difference.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    re read the whole conversation, I am not here to teach
    You'd have to have knowledge on this topic to teach. You don't, as proven by this and many other threads, so you can't.
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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    The bolded sentence does not contradict itself. I said basically some people have no choice. In that situation that I was talking about some peoples orientation involuntarily switches. As opposed to those that do it voluntarily.
    Let's look again at what you said:
    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Some though have no real choice and switch back and forth against their choice but do so by their choice.
    When you added that "but" in there you indicated that the subjected in the line, those what have no choice, are doing so by their choice. Did you possibly mean to write "...but others do so by their own choice."?


    WHat I keep hearing from homosexuals and heterosexuals is that you have to be born on or the other. Then they remember bisexuals and insist that they had to be born that way too.
    I see no contradiction to the concept that there are 4 basic ways to be born sexual orientation wise: Heterosexual, Bi-sexual, Homosexual, and Asexual

    What exactly would be wrong with a heterosexual deciding to be homosexual? I ask this question to anyone really not just you. I have a friend that says thats exactly what he did. He claims to have not been born gay or anything of the sorts, just that he thought it would be fun. And says that he likes it more than being straight. Personally I dont really care if someone is born gay or not born its their life they can do whatever they want. I would never tell someone what they could or could not do based on what? what are these people basing their claim on that its impossible to decided ones one sexual orientation?

    Sexual Orientation: Is It Unchangeable? | Psychology Today
    I agree with you that if indeed you are one of those who can change your orientation then fine by all means do so. But that doesn't mean that all can, any more than it means that none can choose. The issue is not in whether or not any given individual can choose, but in that those who would suppress homosexuality and bi-sexuality claim that all can choose and thus should not be allowed to choose.

    Its funny really the homosexual community used to always complain about heteros being so closed minded. Now they seem to be asserting that all I can do is believe that everone is stuck with the sexual orientation that they were born with, sounds a bit closed minded to me.
    This is a problem point with me as well. I find it so sad and ironic that there are those in the homosexual community cannot accept the very existence of the bi-sexual community. But do not paint the homosexual community with that broad brush. For if indeed they all felt that way there would not be a LBGT movement. Although for the life of me I still don't see how the T fits in with the LBG save that they face many similar problems.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    I voted maybe/don't know, because - as the question is phrased - the two other answers are almost certainly wrong. Most homosexuals are probably people who are inherently drawn to people of the same sex, just as most heterosexuals are probably inherently drawn to people of the opposite sex. But considering that some people change over time, some qualify themselves are bisexual, etc. it is clearthat some people are also homosexual by choice.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    There's no poll.

    But no, homosexuality isn't a choice. Gays can't just flip over to the other side anymore than a straight person can make himself gay.
    Sometimes I think it is, especially in young people. Being gay and/or bi-sexual has become the new Mohawk.
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