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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The inability to discern the difference between Jesus and Paul or the writings of Pharisees and the words of the Son of God?

    I know exactly how that works. It is due to lack of thought, and preferring to follow those who purport to represent and interpret the religion rather than following Jesus.

    Modern day Pharisees differ little from ancient ones in that particular regard.
    You realize God inspired Paul and those words are from God right?
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You realize God inspired Paul and those words are from God right?
    I realize that Saul saw an opportunity to co-opt the movement established by Jesus in order to put his stamp on it. One day he is persecuting the followers of Jesus. The next day he is corrupting the message and changing it to his own.

    You have chosen to follow Paul rather than Jesus and that is certainly your prerogitive. You are free to follow any charlatan you want.

    How anybody could call themself a Christian while so thoroughly rejecting the message of Jesus in favor of just about anybody else remains a mystery to me, however.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I realize that Saul saw an opportunity to co-opt the movement established by Jesus in order to put his stamp on it. One day he is persecuting the followers of Jesus. The next day he is corrupting the message and changing it to his own.

    You have chosen to follow Paul rather than Jesus and that is certainly your prerogitive. You are free to follow any charlatan you want.

    How anybody could call themself a Christian while so thoroughly rejecting the message of Jesus in favor of just about anybody else remains a mystery to me, however.
    Newsflash, their message was the same.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Newsflash, their message was the same.
    Hardly.

    But if you consider Paul as speaking for God rather than Jesus, that is certainly your choice. Same goes with those old timey Pharisee preachers thumping their bibles in order to get you all worked up about people who are causing you no harm in order to cause harm to them. Follow thm all you want.

    Jesus said "Believe in ME". You are certainly free to continue to believe in anybody but.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Hardly.

    But if you consider Paul as speaking for God rather than Jesus, that is certainly your choice. Same goes with those old timey Pharisee preachers thumping their bibles in order to get you all worked up about people who are causing you no harm in order to cause harm to them. Follow thm all you want.

    Jesus said "Believe in ME". You are certainly free to continue to believe in anybody but.
    Can you show me where Jesus and Paul contradicted then? Good luck with that by the way.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Can you show me where Jesus and Paul contradicted then? Good luck with that by the way.
    Read Luke 21.8.

    After doing so, read Romans 13.12
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Read Luke 21.8.

    After doing so, read Romans 13.12
    Um, you might have to translate for us because I don't see how this proves your point.

    8 And he said, “See that you are not led astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am he!’ and, ‘The time is at hand!’ Do not go after them.


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    12 The night is far gone; the day is at hand. So then let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of light. Romans 13:12
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Um, you might have to translate for us because I don't see how this proves your point.
    So Jesus warns His followers very directly to not follow those who claim the time is at hand and it is they speaking for God, and Paul comes along claiming to speak for God saying the time is at hand.

    and I need to explain this to you, do I?

    You just said that is really Paul who speaks for God even though Jesus expressly warned warned you about such.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    There's no poll.

    But no, homosexuality isn't a choice. Gays can't just flip over to the other side anymore than a straight person can make himself gay.
    Gay men marry women and have children all the time.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    So Jesus warns His followers very directly to not follow those who claim the time is at hand and it is they speaking for God, and Paul comes along claiming to speak for God saying the time is at hand.

    and I need to explain this to you, do I?

    You just said that is really Paul who speaks for God even though Jesus expressly warned warned you about such.
    Two problems,

    1. You took things WAY out of context.

    2. Those two verses aren't even referring to the same thing.

    Nice try.
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