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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Actually no, you are still wrong:

    "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion" (Romans 1:26-27).
    Sorry to dispute you in this matter, as you were partly correct in Leviticus 18:22 (partly because it is a direct admonition from God to Moses, but partly incorrect because as I understand it, it only forbids sodomy in the original Hebrew).

    However, I would ask you to remember that when quoting from either Romans or Corinthians, you are actually quoting from letters written by Paul of Tarsus to church groups in Rome and Greece. They were asking questions and seeking guidance from him. BUT, they are neither commands of God, nor revelations from Jesus, merely Paul's instructions to other church members.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by USNavySquid View Post
    Are you a homosexual who declares that anyone who says they have a choice, is automatically a bisexual? Thus preserving that notion that sexual orientation is unchangeable? What do you think attraction is? It is a by-product of attention. Your eyes don't automatically follow an appealing specimen, you willfully point them to it.
    No, attention is a by-product of attraction. I am gay and a gave a girl attention for 3 years who I dated and I was never attracted to her. In fact, I was always attracted to the guys I tried not to pay attention to. The reason I tried not to pay attention to them was because I didn't want to be attracted to them.

    No. Attraction is unchangeable. Don't delude yourself.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    I believe that for a certain percentage of people, it is innate.
    For a certain other percentage of people, it is a choice.

    I have no idea what those percentages are.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I believe that for a certain percentage of people, it is innate.
    For a certain other percentage of people, it is a choice.

    I have no idea what those percentages are.
    Why do you believe that?
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

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    Is Homosexuality A Choice?Folks, there's an ENTIRE forum dedicated to your back and forth debating over the interpritation of religious texts. I suggest you take that discussion there rather than continuing to derail this thread

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    No, attention is a by-product of attraction. I am gay and a gave a girl attention for 3 years who I dated and I was never attracted to her. In fact, I was always attracted to the guys I tried not to pay attention to. The reason I tried not to pay attention to them was because I didn't want to be attracted to them.

    No. Attraction is unchangeable. Don't delude yourself.
    Your post makes sense to me. While I'm heterosexual, I don't recall having made a choice. I can't explain my attraction to females. I've always assumed that my sexual orientation is an immutable characteristic.

    The above said, while I think that environmental homosexuality exist, I believe it's the exception, not the rule. In fact, I can even believe that there are homosexuals who become environment heterosexuals.

    But the bottom line for me is that I believe that sexual orientation is an immutable characteristic for most people...regardless of what their sexual orientation is.

    At what point in time (prior to our birth) did any of us check off a selection list of immutable characteristics as preferences for our existence here on good old planet earth? And if there was such a list...who or what in the hell made it up? Who or what would ensure such a list be manifested into a human being as per such a list?

    I suggest that such a list is impossible.

    And furthermore, I suggest that we (all humans) are an uncontrollable product of circumstance of birth in which we had no way to design ourselves. In other words, we are born just the way we are...without any predetermination as to any of our immutable characteristics.

    Thanks for your post...

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) yes it is and its been proven
    2.) has nothing to do with me, facts prove you wrong
    3.) and there doesnt have to be lustful thoughts with homosexuality or any sexuality, further proving you wrong
    4.) again this has nothing to do with sexuality

    you have been factually proving wrong many times now and denying it is just dishonest, if you disagree by all means PLEASE PLEASE provide factual proof that homosexuality itself is a sin, we are waiting
    You assume sexuality is separate from acts.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Sorry to dispute you in this matter, as you were partly correct in Leviticus 18:22 (partly because it is a direct admonition from God to Moses, but partly incorrect because as I understand it, it only forbids sodomy in the original Hebrew).

    However, I would ask you to remember that when quoting from either Romans or Corinthians, you are actually quoting from letters written by Paul of Tarsus to church groups in Rome and Greece. They were asking questions and seeking guidance from him. BUT, they are neither commands of God, nor revelations from Jesus, merely Paul's instructions to other church members.
    Ever heard of the Inspiration of God?
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    The 14(I don't know) are, IMO, the smartest
    I am in the majority
    Those, in the minority, I wonder about.....but not worry about...they are "soft wired" .
    Yes, one's environment plays a definite role in some cases, maybe many instances, but, ultimately, one is hard wired, and there is no choice...

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Ever heard of the Inspiration of God?
    Yes, I have. It has caused more problems and more divisions within the Christiam Church than in any other religious organization. At last count over 41,000! They can't ALL be right, can they?

    Then how many different versions of the Bible are there? Estimates of anywhere from a few dozens to several hundred, depending on which authority you believe. They can't ALL be right, can they?

    Personally, I adhere to those parts of the Bible where God has issued direct commandments, and this includes those laid out by his incarnation on earth, Jesus Christ. (Who clearly stated many many times, no human being is capable of judging the sins of another human being, that is the sole perview of God.) Aside from Leviticus 18:22 which forbids sodomy, there is not a single admonition or command from God (or Jesus) which forbids or comdemns homosexuality.

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