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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nynaeve Meara View Post
    No they aren't and no they do not. Which is not the same as sexual acts of choice which is what you were referring too.
    OK, if that's what you want to think, fine. You might want to do some reading on the subject though, you may learn something.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    You have to read other posts for context. you're misinterpreting what I've said.
    On the contrary, I read your posts. That perfectly mocks your position.

    What is also funny is you can't figure out that transgendered =/= homosexuality
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    On the contrary, I read your posts. That perfectly mocks your position.

    What is also funny is you can't figure out that transgendered =/= homosexuality
    I never equated the two in any way. This entire line of discussion was to show that everyone has their own moral lines of what they believe to be right or wrong. To disagree with someone else's moral line does not make one discriminatory or bigoted. It's a shame that I spent a lot of time successfully making that point, in order to get past the name calling and mocking and have a serious discussion, only to have you come along and start the uninformed and useless mocking again.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    I never equated the two in any way.
    Actually you did just that.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1062327992

    You followed your initial claim of the "gay agenda" with transgendered current events, even though the two are unrelated.

    This entire line of discussion was to show that everyone has their own moral lines of what they believe to be right or wrong. To disagree with someone else's moral line does not make one discriminatory or bigoted.
    It does when the arguments being made to support one's moral code are in fact discriminatory or bigoted. The last scene in that little video is the real gay agenda. Two gay married guys eating breakfast together as a legal couple. What scares you about that so much you have to equate things unrelated to it to scare others?

    It's a shame that I spent a lot of time successfully making that point, in order to get past the name calling and mocking and have a serious discussion, only to have you come along and start the uninformed and useless mocking again.
    Merely because you think you did that does not make it so. I see plenty of people before me all attacking you on your arguments. Perhaps you think you aren't promoting a discriminatory or bigoted argument when in fact you are. It's not that your against homosexuality that's the problem, it's how you go about it.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    OK, if that's what you want to think, fine. You might want to do some reading on the subject though, you may learn something.
    I'm not the one that doesn't understand the difference between sexual attraction and a sexual act.

    Those are two very different things, only one is a choice.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    I say "Learned behavior" and that is not equivalent to making a conscious choice.
    I dont quite agree with you on that.

    Through out history there have always been heterosexual and homosexuals...and homosexuality hasnt been taught in schools, was shunned & denigrated by society for centuries, made illegal in some countries.

    If anything through out history, heterosexuality is what has been pushed as learned behavior.

    I truly believe that homosexuality is not a choice, its a born in trait. We have all had those kids we grew up with who were a little "different" (for the lack of a better word) who, later in life, wound up coming out the closet.

    Friends of my wife and mine have a son, in his early 20's now, all of us knew he was "different" growing up...he now lives with his boyfriend and is happy.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Imnukingfutz View Post
    I dont quite agree with you on that.

    Through out history there have always been heterosexual and homosexuals...and homosexuality hasnt been taught in schools, was shunned & denigrated by society for centuries, made illegal in some countries.

    If anything through out history, heterosexuality is what has been pushed as learned behavior.

    I truly believe that homosexuality is not a choice, its a born in trait. We have all had those kids we grew up with who were a little "different" (for the lack of a better word) who, later in life, wound up coming out the closet.

    Friends of my wife and mine have a son, in his early 20's now, all of us knew he was "different" growing up...he now lives with his boyfriend and is happy.
    I'm not basing my "learned behavior theory on school lessons, although it's possible too. I'm basing it on neurological development with environment and attention impacting that development.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    I'm not basing my "learned behavior theory on school lessons, although it's possible too. I'm basing it on neurological development with environment and attention impacting that development.
    if we use that stream of thought it still doesnt account for the past...

    In the past homosexuality was hidden from public, it was frowned upon, denigrated and made to be shameful...yet there was still homosexuality. Its illegal in Russia and a death sentence in the middle east, yet there are still homosexuals in those areas.

    If it is learned behavior, where are they learning it from in those areas?
    If it is learned behavior, wouldnt anti-homosexual laws deter homosexual behavior? If it isnt in the environment you cant learn from it...am I right?

    There was homosexuality in Biblical times...was there a strong homosexual environment to learn from then?
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    those people that said yes are clueless about this topic

    also the poll should be public id bet large money that its not 42 true votes.
    yeah especially considering it was almost unanimously 'No' for a while, IIRC. Even saying sexuality might be fluid for some and that it's a *choice* of all things, is completely different. I would be curious to see how many 'Yes' in a "Is heterosexuality a choice?" poll

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    yeah especially considering it was almost unanimously 'No' for a while, IIRC. Even saying sexuality might be fluid for some and that it's a *choice* of all things, is completely different. I would be curious to see how many 'Yes' in a "Is heterosexuality a choice?" poll
    yep thats nother thing people over look.

    in discussion of SEXUAL ORIENTATION they cant be separated, so if one is a choice so is the other

    just like when somebody makes the meaningless statement there is no gay gene, if thats the case there is no straight gene

    the desperation to separate it is hilarious.
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