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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    But they do. Frequently too.

    The leading candidate for mayor New York has a "former" lesbian as a wife.
    So they're exploring a new area of their life. Changing doesn't mean they set out to change. I don't know anybody that says "You know, I'm going to go be gay now." It's about who you are attracted to.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Can you post them? I am a social scientist by trade and I am always terribly disappointed when people make these kinds of claims but then don't back them up.
    If you are a social scientist you are familiar with the studies on attraction, otherwise google it. Note: I am refering to studies on attraction as a general principal, not specific to sexual preference.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    So they're exploring a new area of their life. Changing doesn't mean they set out to change. I don't know anybody that says "You know, I'm going to go be gay now." It's about who you are attracted to.
    Isn't exploration, by definition, a choice?

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Isn't exploration, by definition, a choice?
    So if you're only attracted to your own sex, and not attracted to the other sex, you're heterosexual as long as you just don't do anything sexual?
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    So if you're only attracted to your own sex, and not attracted to the other sex, you're heterosexual as long as you just don't do anything sexual?
    I don't know what that means.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    I don't know what that means.
    Then I'll dumb it down for you. Are you saying that no matter what your inner attraction is, you're straight if you don't act on it? IE: John is sexually attracted to guys, and not sexually attracted to girls. Is he straight as long as he doesn't have sex with guys?

    I would call that a closet homosexual. John can't help who he's attracted to.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Sorry John, but that is an absolutely ridiculous statement_

    Sexual attraction is most definitely a psycho/bio-logical function designed by evolution to motivate a species to procreate_

    Although homosexuality can be learned in situations where people have no access to the opposite sex such as long prison sentences_

    But most wouldn't consider this true homosexuality but rather desperate measures much the same as cannibalism by starving people_

    Considering the extreme dopamine rush during orgasm, it's no surprise that the motivation for sex is more often for the physical pleasure than for actually making a baby, especially since the introduction of birth control_

    But Mother Nature doesn't care why we do it, as long as we're doing it_

    Regardless, we are all products of evolution and any variation from the design is considered a mistake of nature_

    Including those who are sexually attracted to anything other than the opposite sex of reproductive age and same species_

    ie, any sexual attraction to animals, children or the same sex is the result of either a genetic or psychological abnormality_

    Genetic mistakes are evolution's way of improving the species by allowing a beneficial mistake to contribute to the gene pool_

    And inconsequential mistakes die off making no genetic contribution to the species, which is what homosexuals do by design_

    So regardless of what triggers homosexuality or any other paraphilia, it is not natural to biological or psychological human evolution_
    Thanks for your perspective, from my reading we're not that far off in our views, we just get there through different methods. I am slightly familiar with evolutionary psychology and it's theories but have not done a thourough contemplation. I kind of dismissed it after two thick volumns of info that seemed a bit fanciful to me... btw In the first statement I didn't say sexual attraction, I said attraction.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Then I'll dumb it down for you. Are you saying that no matter what your inner attraction is, you're straight if you don't act on it? IE: John is sexually attracted to guys, and not sexually attracted to girls. Is he straight as long as he doesn't have sex with guys?

    I would call that a closet homosexual. John can't help who he's attracted to.
    I didn't say anything remotely similar to that.

    Maybe you should smarten up instead of worrying about dumbing down your posts.

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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    I didn't say anything remotely similar to that.

    Maybe you should smarten up instead of worrying about dumbing down your posts.
    Seriously? You postulated that gays CAN choose to be gay or not, then when I stated they can't choose who they're attracted to, you replied with "Isn't exploration, by definition, a choice?"

    That means you think they're only gay if they choose to explore it, it doesn't matter who they're attracted to.

    Please try to keep up, I'm tired of you getting lost, especially on your own statements.
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    Re: Is Homosexuality A Choice?

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    I didn't accuse you specifically of discrimination. I accuse the bigoted self righteous assholes who feel the need to discriminate against and act abhorrently and often violently against gay people. That in turn causes people to actually make crappy laws and regulations because otherwise nobody else will step up to the plate.

    It reminds me of Affirmative Action laws.

    Should they have been necessary? HELL NO! But were minorities getting a fair shake in this country? Bigger HELL NO. Did the civil rights movement stop bigoted idiots from doing their best to their best to assure minorities never got a fair shake? Even bigger HELL NO.

    So while we are busy blaming our lawmakers and our government about stupid ass laws...perhaps we should be blaming the bigoted idiots that do their best to make sure anyone who is not like them is traumatized either physically, emotionally, or financially.
    We agree. I'd much rather stygmatize a biggoted Idiot than someone who has a sexual preference that is different than my own, let's just keep the fight in an open and free civil society and out of public institutions.

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