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Thread: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Two completely different ID's, except in Texas, as of two days ago. I can't believe all of the apples and oranges on DP from cons? Has it always been this way since you are an old-timer? Talk about derailment. I might as well drive your semi eastbound in the westbound lanes.
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    I cannot object to requiring an ID to carry a gun since I support requiring an ID to vote. That would make me a hypocrite.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Two completely different ID's, except in Texas, as of two days ago. I can't believe all of the apples and oranges on DP from cons? Has it always been this way since you are an old-timer? Talk about derailment. I might as well drive your semi eastbound in the westbound lanes.
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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    I have a CCL and yet when traveling through Illinois I am taking big risk. However I have called them ahead of time before and was told as long as I could not get to it while sitting in the drivers seat nothing would be said, so now I just pack it in the trunk until I get past their state lines.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I have a CCL and yet when traveling through Illinois I am taking big risk. However I have called them ahead of time before and was told as long as I could not get to it while sitting in the drivers seat nothing would be said, so now I just pack it in the trunk until I get past their state lines.
    Something most certainly can be said, especially if it's loaded. It has to be in a locked hard case as far away from you in the vehicle as possible. The ammunition has to be in a difference location in the car, and never in the glove box or center console. You have to be traveling through the state, not stopping except for fuel or a quick meal. You can't even spend the night in the state.

    If you use your handgun for lawful self defense while traveling through IL, you will be charged with felony possession and use, even if you were in all other way in the right.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Something most certainly can be said, especially if it's loaded. It has to be in a locked hard case as far away from you in the vehicle as possible. The ammunition has to be in a difference location in the car, and never in the glove box or center console. You have to be traveling through the state, not stopping except for fuel or a quick meal. You can't even spend the night in the state.

    If you use your handgun for lawful self defense while traveling through IL, you will be charged with felony possession and use, even if you were in all other way in the right.
    It stays in the trunk, locked. I go to several target shooting contest through invites from friends and clients

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Something most certainly can be said, especially if it's loaded. It has to be in a locked hard case as far away from you in the vehicle as possible.
    No. It must be encased and can be even sitting in the back seat. As long as it is unloaded (including any magazines as they are considered part of the gun) it can be encased anywhere in the vehicle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The ammunition has to be in a different location in the car, and never in the glove box or center console. You have to be traveling through the state, not stopping except for fuel or a quick meal. You can't even spend the night in the state.
    Yes you can spend the night as long as you abide by Illinois storage of ammo and weapons. If the ammunition is locked in the glove box or center console it is fine. The weapon as long as encased and unloaded cannot be stored in the same place as the ammo. So if one is in the trunk, the other can be in any other storage compartment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If you use your handgun for lawful self defense while traveling through IL, you will be charged with felony possession and use, even if you were in all other way in the right.
    True in most cases, but not all. It depends on where you are. For example if you are in Will County you will have little trouble. Cook County on the other hand is the exact and polar opposite. I agree though better just to leave it alone.
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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    No. It must be encased and can be even sitting in the back seat. As long as it is unloaded (including any magazines as they are considered part of the gun) it can be encased anywhere in the vehicle.

    Yes you can spend the night as long as you abide by Illinois storage of ammo and weapons. If the ammunition is locked in the glove box or center console it is fine. The weapon as long as encased and unloaded cannot be stored in the same place as the ammo. So if one is in the trunk, the other can be in any other storage compartment.

    True in most cases, but not all. It depends on where you are. For example if you are in Will County you will have little trouble. Cook County on the other hand is the exact and polar opposite. I agree though better just to leave it alone.
    Thank you for demonstrating why gun owners of any kind should have to take a gun-education class in addition to any gun-training class.

    18 USC 926A - Interstate transportation of firearms | Title 18 - Crimes and Criminal Procedure | U.S. Code | LII / Legal Information Institute
    Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.
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    If you have a trunk, the gun has to be in the trunk. LegalHeat's LEO trainers told us to always use a locked hard case.

    I'm going to take the word and provided resources of my permit instructors over you every single time, Mr. Random Anon from the internetz.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    I like the gun-education and gun-training classes. You're better off driving through my state of Illinois, especially on Interstate 80. Otherwise, be careful in my LaSalle county, where I-39 and I-80 intersect. Btw, our concealed-carry law is due to be dealt with by July 9th.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Thank you for demonstrating why gun owners of any kind should have to take a gun-education class in addition to any gun-training class.


    See also:
    Firearm Owners Protection Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I'm going to take the word and provided resources of my permit instructors over you every single time, Mr. Random Anon from the internetz.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I like the gun-education and gun-training classes. You're better off driving through my state of Illinois, especially on Interstate 80. Otherwise, be careful in my LaSalle county, where I-39 and I-80 intersect. Btw, our concealed-carry law is due to be dealt with by July 9th.
    Are you folks offering a non-resident permit? Because tons of folks will line up to give your state money if you do, myself included.

    Any word on what state's IL will reciprocate with?

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I have a CCL and yet when traveling through Illinois I am taking big risk. However I have called them ahead of time before and was told as long as I could not get to it while sitting in the drivers seat nothing would be said, so now I just pack it in the trunk until I get past their state lines.
    I don't think so. I think the state police here are sick of this CCL BS. 99 out of 102 counties voted for a wing-nut for governor in 2010, mainly because our governor promised to raise the income tax, which he did.

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