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Thread: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I'm so sorry that you've been subjected to that injustice. If you want, I can mail you some real pizza.
    Oh I've been to Chicago. They have some perks to them.

    I just managed to stay on the outskirts, instead of chugging up and down Michigan Ave. and trying not to cry in a traffic jam.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Oh I've been to Chicago. They have some perks to them.

    I just managed to stay on the outskirts, instead of chugging up and down Michigan Ave. and trying not to cry in a traffic jam.
    Sounds like you acted like a Chicagoan.
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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Yes, and it has been a real issue for me. I ended up breaking CA's law as the first time I ever set foot here, to take my kids to DL, it was three weeks after the Rodney King riots, and there was no way I was coming here without protection. CCWed in Idaho, and remained so till a few years ago when I left the state to gypsy around the west and see where I wanted to settle for my last leg of life. Now I'm here in CA to stay with a gun I can't carry or use really in anyway legally. I was going to send it back to my dd in Idaho who is now a CCW but hasn't purchased her Glock because I was going to give her mine, and damn! I can't even send it to her without jumping through hoops. Seems and unloaded weapon in the original case, firing pin set separate, ought to be enough, but apparently I have to pay a gun dealer to send it to a gun dealer who'll then allow it to go to my daughter. Seems everyone along the way wants to be paid as well...OY!

    I am totally for background checks and CCW or some some of personal licensing to carry outside the home that indicates some level of knowledge and training. But there are a whole lot of really onerous and stupid laws out there, and expecting someone to ...what? lose our handguns as we cross state borders is ridiculous.
    Occasionally you see NYC tourists arrested for approaching workers at places like the Empire State Building about checking their guns.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Sounds like you acted like a Chicagoan.
    Haha. I'm just your typical Midwesterner who doesn't do well in huuuuuuuuuge ass cities.

    I went to a joint in Oak Park. Was good.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Haha. I'm just your typical Midwesterner who doesn't do well in huuuuuuuuuge ass cities.

    I went to a joint in Oak Park. Was good.
    You remember the name of it?
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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    You remember the name of it?
    Hell if I remember. I just stopped somewhere, and I was like 20 at the time, almost a decade and a half ago.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Why do you prefer open to concealed carry for a handgun? The 7-11 feakout factor alone makes concealed carry a better idea.
    I disagree.

    I think anytime you carry you should carry as openly as possible.

    It's a courtesy to everyone.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    well i agree in general

    this is why i think open carry should be legal in every state but im ok with conceal weapons permits as long as they arent restrictive
    i was cleared to buy a handgun many years ago and it took 15 mins, im sure its faster now
    my concealed weapons permit took about 10-14days if i remember right.

    as far as fees, mine is 25$ and im ok with that only because where does it stop? free guns?
    now if a person could prove hardship then fine give it out free

    as for classes? i would also be ok with this AS LONG as it wasnt a necessity. Meaning if you have to take the clasess within a year or two or something like that and they were also dirt cheap or free but did not STOP you from obtaining your gun.

    While i get your reference to voting rights in reality those arent quite the same.

    Basically i guess what im saying is im ok with permits, fees and classes IF they dont actually stop me from getting a gun. if i can still get one with a quick background check im ok with it.
    In Texas a CHL requires a 10 hour class (about $100), passing a test that requires firing 50 rounds of ammunition (about $30) and a non-refundable application fee of $140 (total expense of $270). A driver's license in Texas costs $24 and includes the practical and written tests. Carrying a loaded handgun is ONLY legal if you have a CHL since open carry is illegal in Texas (even with a CHL). What is being ignored is the vast difference between a constitutional right and a state issued privilege.
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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    1.)In Texas a CHL requires a 10 hour class (about $100), passing a test that requires firing 50 rounds of ammunition (about $30) and a non-refundable application fee of $140 (total expense of $270). A driver's license in Texas costs $24 and includes the practical and written tests.
    2.)Carrying a loaded handgun is ONLY legal if you have a CHL since open carry is illegal in Texas (even with a CHL).
    3.)What is being ignored is the vast difference between a constitutional right and a state issued privilege.
    1.) yeah im not cool with that so much especially if it prevents me from carrying concealed
    2.) open carry is illegal in texas????????? thats shocking
    3.) i agree i guess that im just admitting that some restriction i would be ok with but i would never say they are 100% constitutional because i would be wrong IMO and I think all the restrictions should be done the right way.

    shocked open carry is illegal in texas
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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    I disagree.

    I think anytime you carry you should carry as openly as possible.

    It's a courtesy to everyone.
    I disagree. Open carry offers a much better chance for a "bad guy" to preplan either taking you out first or to attempt to take your handgun from you. Just as it is wiser to conceal valuables in a parked vehicle, it is better to not advertise that you are armed. I like the option of either, since with our 100 degree weather my OWB holster may not always be covered well.
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