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Thread: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    Why don't you just apply for a Florida CCW as it covers all those states and you can get one as a non resident. It is also good for 7 years.

    Didn't your all mighty instructors tell you this?
    Actually yes, they did. The LegalHeat class I have a certificate from is not honored by Florida because it is not NRA approved. Florida won't accept my DD214 or BCT certificate since I never qualified with the pistol in the service. http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/FOR...structions.pdf


    Arizona honors my LegalHeat class, Florida does not, and I don't have the time to take another class right now.
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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I've got no problem with the 2nd amendment and your comment on gun permits from the ATF. I believe the 10th is the Queen Bee and was deliberately placed last in the BOR. I believe the 10th almost cost us the Constitution and then caused the civil war. It is well on its way to causing another one, IMHO, only this time in nearly every state.

    As for having a permit, I would consider that a badge of honor after passing all the training. I'll always believe the NRA training given to my wife's nephew by his Mother saved his ass in Iraq during 3 missions, including Fallujah.
    I'm unsure what part of my comment you are taking issue with.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Actually yes, they did. The LegalHeat class I have a certificate from is not honored by Florida because it is not NRA approved. Florida won't accept my DD214 or BCT certificate since I never qualified with the pistol in the service. Arizona honors my LegalHeat class, Florida does not, and I don't have the time to take another class right now.
    That is too bad. I can carry pretty much anyplace I go and it is easy since I don't go to the NE. Only place I have to put it away is Illinois. Of course I don't go any further north than that either.

    It's funny you insulted my knowledge of Illinois law. I did not need to, but took the Florida class because I wanted to know Florida law as well. You should not assume I am lying or pulling your leg because I don't. After 4 years you should know this. You should also know it is impossible for anyone to know all the laws both Federal and state in any case.
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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    The part about not having to have a permit at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm unsure what part of my comment you are taking issue with.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The part about not having to have a permit at all.
    It's like being required to have a permit to go to church and wear a crucifix.

    It's because of the 10th Amendment that states do not have the authority to require gun permits. All these state permits I'm running around and collecting are all illegal because each one is a violation of the 10th Amendment.....but that's the only way to carry a gun around here, so, **** it.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I cannot object to requiring an ID to carry a gun since I support requiring an ID to vote. That would make me a hypocrite.
    A person voting illegally—either someone who isn't eligible to vote in that election, or who casts multiple votes or otherwise corrupts the electoral process—violates the rights of every legitimate voter by diluting their legitimate votes. This creates a legitimate reason to require voters to prove who they are, and their eligibility to cast a vote.

    No similar reason exists to require ID for the right to keep and bear arms. Every free citizen has this right, and there is no way that one person, by exercising this right, violates someone else's right to exercise it as well.
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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    A person voting illegally—either someone who isn't eligible to vote in that election, or who casts multiple votes or otherwise corrupts the electoral process—violates the rights of every legitimate voter by diluting their legitimate votes. This creates a legitimate reason to require voters to prove who they are, and their eligibility to cast a vote.

    No similar reason exists to require ID for the right to keep and bear arms. Every free citizen has this right, and there is no way that one person, by exercising this right, violates someone else's right to exercise it as well.
    A person voting carrying a gun illegally-- .....I mean, come on, you can do better than that.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    You'd be surprised at how gun-friendly the states are that border Canada. ALL of them seem to have a special story. The Northeast Kingdom in Vermont is like Jurassic Park and very conservative. They hunt, they eat what they kill, they burn wood almost exclusively for heat, are very French Catholic, but don't mind registering their weapons, and are wondering where all the 22 bullets went. they can't find any. Then there's Northern maine, with a Congressional District that sometimes goes to Repubs in the EC. Trouble is, they all hate Romney in the NE. They remember well what he did with Bain and as governor.And you know Northern NH is con. They still have anti-Obama signs all over. Try Northern New York, very con all across the state, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Manta View Post
    That is too bad. I can carry pretty much anyplace I go and it is easy since I don't go to the NE. Only place I have to put it away is Illinois. Of course I don't go any furthAer north than that either.

    It's funny you insulted my knowledge of Illinois law but I did not need to, but took the Florida class because I wanted to know Florida law as well. You should not assume I am lying or pulling your leg because I don't. After 4 years you should know this. You should also know it is impossible for anyone to know all the laws both Federal and state in any case.

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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You'd be surprised at how gun-friendly the states are that border Canada. ALL of them seem to have a special story. The Northeast Kingdom in Vermont is like Jurassic Park and very conservative. They hunt, they eat what they kill, they burn wood almost exclusively for heat, are very French Catholic, but don't mind registering their weapons, and are wondering where all the 22 bullets went. they can't find any. Then there's Northern maine, with a Congressional District that sometimes goes to Repubs in the EC. Trouble is, they all hate Romney in the NE. They remember well what he did with Bain and as governor.And you know Northern NH is con. They still have anti-Obama signs all over. Try Northern New York, very con all across the state, etc.
    Man oh man, had no idea. I am just going by the states that do not recognize the Florida CCW license: California, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Guam, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, New York City, Oregon, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, Virgin Islands, Washington, Wisconsin, American Samoa, Illinois, N. Mariana Islands. Only 22 of them, And Guam, Puerto Rico, American Samoa and the Virgin Islands I don't care about anyway. but I still stay out of the other 18.
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    Re: Concealled Carry Permits and state borders

    Each state gets to make it's own laws. Fed keep nose out of it.

    If you don't like your states laws, agitate for change.
    If you don't like another states laws, don't go there.

    Diversity is good.

    I don't want the 50 states to resemble a 1950s realestate development.

    All the same, ticky tacky boxes.
    If you live long enough, you will live in a foreign country, because the past is foreign to the present. We lived differently then. The only constant is change!

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